From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V4 #79 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Wednesday, March 6 2002 Volume 04 : Number 079 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] plugging the album [jim colbert ] [RS] RE: shindell-list-digest V4 #78 ["Plunkett, Adam" ] [RS] chortles and guffaws [jim colbert ] Re: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V4 #78 ["bonime.com" ] Re: [RS] "His career or mine" [Lisa Davis & family ] Re: [RS] Re: Post-CT concert debriefing [Lisa Davis & family Subject: [RS] plugging the album > I also liked that Richard found the chutzpah deep down to plug "Courier" for > a brief moment, towards the end of his set. You can tell he is not very > comfortable plugging his own stuff, but I'm happy he got the gumption. > I'm glad to hear that too; most artists don't want to appear hard sell...okay, maybe that's a way-too-big generalization, let me fix it. A lot of artists don't want to appear too hard sell or overbearing and want to let their work stand on it's own, and it often will but i think that little nudge certainly doesn't hurt in my book. Move product! Ya gotta move product if you're doing it for a living. (boy, and speaking of which, wouldn't the cover of courier make a killer t-shirt, hint hint?) Why do I think it must have been either Loudon Wainwright or Mike Cross I saw one time who said something like "I have a new album out that everyone should buy." looooooong, ready to break water pregnant pause. Looks around in mild confusion. "No, I meant right now..." Might have even been the lone time I saw Steve Goodman. Jim Colbert ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 16:16:47 -0500 From: "Plunkett, Adam" Subject: [RS] RE: shindell-list-digest V4 #78 Thank you Jim for the lyrics as well as those great links... "I Am" blew me away when I heard him sing it live. Adam ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 16:41:29 -0500 From: Subject: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V4 #78 >P.S. Does anyone (besides me) think it's strange when audience >members >giggle at parts of Transit that I'm fairly sure aren't meant to be >funny? This song is nothing but funny! I am not sure where you are from, but if you've ever experienced NJ traffic, you might also find it funny. I saw a smirk on Richard's face a few times during the Morristown, NJ show where much of the audience laughed at this song. And the imagery of the nun changing the tire!! I actually never really listened to this song until I heard it live the other night and couldn't believe how I never realized how humorous it was. Here's hoping you never get stuck on I-80! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 16:53:20 -0500 From: jim colbert Subject: [RS] chortles and guffaws >P.S. Does anyone (besides me) think it's strange when audience >members>giggle at parts of Transit that I'm fairly sure aren't meant to be >funny? This song is nothing but funny! I am not sure where you are from, but if you've ever experienced NJ traffic, you might also find it funny. Isn't the New Jersey driving motto "you gotta laugh sometimes cause you just can't shoot EVERYONE?!" (It's not? Oh, never mind.) Anyway, you might want to clarify just what parts of the song are being referred to... there are lines I don't think are necessarily amusing. (Of course, "flipping the bird" usually always makes me chuckle, whether it's robert earl or richard!) But laughing at Next Best Western? Blasphemers! Heathens! I don't wish I-80 jams on anyone, btw. (hey, btw, you guys know what mintsi and tammany refers to?) jim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 16:53:39 -0500 From: "bonime.com" Subject: Re: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V4 #78 There was a smattering of snickers on Mary Magdalene in Orange Country Sunday on the line "...his career or mine." I don't think that was supposed to be a laugh line, but it is a rather contemporary description for a biblical reference. I think Richard found the snickering odd (I say this by his facial expression, but I could definitely be wrong). I concur that Transit is intentionally humor-filled (especially as compared to Wisteria or You Stay Here). Andy Bonime - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 4:41 PM Subject: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V4 #78 > >P.S. Does anyone (besides me) think it's strange when audience >members > >giggle at parts of Transit that I'm fairly sure aren't meant to be >funny? > > > This song is nothing but funny! I am not sure where you are from, but if you've ever experienced NJ traffic, you might also find it funny. I saw a smirk on Richard's face a few times during the Morristown, NJ show where much of the audience laughed at this song. And the imagery of the nun changing the tire!! I actually never really listened to this song until I heard it live the other night and couldn't believe how I never realized how humorous it was. > > Here's hoping you never get stuck on I-80! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 17:55:27 -0500 From: Elwestrand Subject: Re: [RS] Re: Post-CT concert debriefing ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag - ---- On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, LBECKLAW@aol.com (LBECKLAW@aol.com) wrote: > > P.S. Does anyone (besides me) think it's strange when audience members > giggle at parts of Transit that I'm fairly sure aren't meant to be > funny? I think the laughter is embarrassed recognition. I think those of us who live in high-traffic parts of the world are very familiar with bad road behavior. I wouldn't know about it personally, of course, but I hear most people occasionally display less than perfect manners on the road. E ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 01:26:46 -0000 From: "Geraint Evans" Subject: [RS] "His career or mine" Hello, Sorry, but I'm intrigued how anyone can think that this line in 'Mary Magdalene' can be anything other than intentionally funny! I reckon it's a light-hearted (and maybe ironic?) moment in a very unconventional love song. I've heard it sung by others, though never by Richard of course (living on the wrong side of the Blue Yonder) and though never prompting a belly laugh it always raises something closely resembling a knowing smile especially amongst those of a female metabolism. The subject matter is different but this line always reminded me of Dory Previn's feminist jab at the patriarchal society of two thousand years ago "Did Jesus Have A Baby Sister?" which has lots of "laugh lines" such as "Did she long to be the saviour? Saving everyone she met... and in private to her mirror did she whisper.... Saviourette? Saviourwoman? Saviourperson? Save your breath!" Gerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 21:07:02 -0500 From: Lisa Davis & family Subject: Re: [RS] "His career or mine" Geraint Evans wrote: > Sorry, but I'm intrigued how anyone can think that this line in 'Mary > Magdalene' can be anything other than intentionally funny! absolutely, and I used to think it was THE characteristic of a RS song - -- maybe still is, witness "Transit." "Blue Divide" being the other one. amongst those of a female metabolism. The subject matter is different but > this line always reminded me of Dory Previn's feminist jab at the > patriarchal society of two thousand years ago "Did Jesus Have A Baby > Sister?" which has lots of "laugh lines" such as > "Did she long to be the saviour? Saving everyone she met... > and in private to her mirror did she whisper.... > Saviourette? Saviourwoman? > Saviourperson? Save your breath!" I always loved that too! And she could do some deeply depressing ones also (just to continue the theme), the one that I never forget being the one with the refrain "You swear you'll never leave me; I say, 'I know'" lisa davis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 21:08:42 -0500 From: "Andrew Bonime" Subject: Re: [RS] "His career or mine" - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geraint Evans" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 8:26 PM Subject: [RS] "His career or mine" > Hello, > > Sorry, but I'm intrigued how anyone can think that this line in 'Mary > Magdalene' can be anything other than intentionally funny! I reckon it's a > light-hearted (and maybe ironic?) moment in a very unconventional love song. I don't know much about the evolution of this song, but as far as I can see, the only line even marginally funny is that line about his career or mine. Otherwise, it is very similar to the seriously intended "I Don't Know How To Love Him" by Rice and Lloyd-Webber. Maybe the song is a send up of that one (or maybe not). Andy Bonime ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 21:09:07 -0500 From: Lisa Davis & family Subject: Re: [RS] Re: Post-CT concert debriefing >I do believe she called "Reunion Hill" the best war song ever written! No, the best ANTI-war song ever written! lisa ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V4 #79 **********************************