From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V4 #72 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Friday, March 1 2002 Volume 04 : Number 072 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Re: "Farewell To The Gold" ["Geraint Evans" ] Re: [RS] Morristown [Vanessa Christina Wills ] [RS] Re: there is no sin [LBECKLAW@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 10:30:27 -0000 From: "Geraint Evans" Subject: [RS] Re: "Farewell To The Gold" Sorry Bill (and Joe)....I should have made myself more clear in that earlier message......the only recording of Paul Metser's song "Farewell to The Gold" that I know of is by Nic Jones, the English folk singer, on his 1980 album 'Penguin Eggs'. The whole album is an absolute delight and I think would appeal to Richard's fans as much as it seems to do to the man himself (if he's performed it I'm sure he must have learnt it from Jones' album) Nic Jones might be slightly less accessible but he has become Folk music's equivalent of Nick Drake and is revered far and wide in Britain. Dylan has also pointed to him as a major influence. Jones was himself influenced by the likes of Bert Jansch and Davey Graham, and he became a major draw on the folk circuit during the 70's and had been one of the first acts I saw when I finally entered a folk club for the first time after moving to Manchester in 1974. 'Penguin Eggs' was the last of about six albums Nic recorded between 1970 and 1982 during which time he had developed and mastered a highly individual guitar style rivalling that of Martin Carthy. At this point, unfortunately, Nic's career was effectively ended when his car was in collision with a brick lorry in the Peak District between Lancashire and Yorkshire on his way home from a gig. He was in hospital for six months, mostly in a coma. When he emerged he'd lost his memory and his other injuries have prevented him from playing guitar in public since. Most of the material he 'wrote' had been bizarrely credited as 'Trad arr Jones' (at his own instigation) which unfortunately has resulted in difficulties recouping royalty payments. These rewards may have been considerable (Eliza Carthy's version of his arrangement of 'Ten Thousand Miles' had been the theme song for 'Fly Away Home' and Dylan himself did a version of 'Canadee-I-O'). I gather he's continuing to make slow but steady progress and is at least singing again, despite residual memory problems. In 1999 he helped put together a new CD 'In Search Of Nic Jones' from old demos, live recordings and BBC sessions and this has eased his precarious financial situation. Another similar one has just been released too. Elsewhere, John Wesley Harding has recorded a whole album of his songs called appropriately enough 'Trad arr Jones', which is also excellent. Three of Nic's albums at least are available at Fish Records over here if anyone's interested (as they may be difficult to find Stateside). Perhaps Neil Pearson of Fish can confirm (I think he's on this list). Fish incidentally are probably the only place in Britain you can get hold of 'Paterson' and 'Courier', both of which were his 'Albums of the Month'....I don't know how many people he's introduced to Richard's music but there are quite a few that I know of (I count myself as one). Cheers, Gerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 11:16:40 -0000 From: "alan.teather" Subject: RE: [RS] Re: "Farewell To The Gold" Hi Geraint Evans, Of course there's also me......ol' Rhinohide, and I've been bashing my gums about Neil and Fish for a while as he is the superior seller of fine music isn't he. TC Alan Who do you know who would like some extra income now the credit cards are biting? Have them email me for details. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Sent: 01 March 2002 10:30 To: shindell-list@smoe.org Subject: [RS] Re: "Farewell To The Gold" Sorry Bill (and Joe)....I should have made myself more clear in that earlier message......the only recording of Paul Metser's song "Farewell to The Gold" that I know of is by Nic Jones, the English folk singer, on his 1980 album 'Penguin Eggs'. The whole album is an absolute delight and I think would appeal to Richard's fans as much as it seems to do to the man himself (if he's performed it I'm sure he must have learnt it from Jones' album) Nic Jones might be slightly less accessible but he has become Folk music's equivalent of Nick Drake and is revered far and wide in Britain. Dylan has also pointed to him as a major influence. Jones was himself influenced by the likes of Bert Jansch and Davey Graham, and he became a major draw on the folk circuit during the 70's and had been one of the first acts I saw when I finally entered a folk club for the first time after moving to Manchester in 1974. 'Penguin Eggs' was the last of about six albums Nic recorded between 1970 and 1982 during which time he had developed and mastered a highly individual guitar style rivalling that of Martin Carthy. At this point, unfortunately, Nic's career was effectively ended when his car was in collision with a brick lorry in the Peak District between Lancashire and Yorkshire on his way home from a gig. He was in hospital for six months, mostly in a coma. When he emerged he'd lost his memory and his other injuries have prevented him from playing guitar in public since. Most of the material he 'wrote' had been bizarrely credited as 'Trad arr Jones' (at his own instigation) which unfortunately has resulted in difficulties recouping royalty payments. These rewards may have been considerable (Eliza Carthy's version of his arrangement of 'Ten Thousand Miles' had been the theme song for 'Fly Away Home' and Dylan himself did a version of 'Canadee-I-O'). I gather he's continuing to make slow but steady progress and is at least singing again, despite residual memory problems. In 1999 he helped put together a new CD 'In Search Of Nic Jones' from old demos, live recordings and BBC sessions and this has eased his precarious financial situation. Another similar one has just been released too. Elsewhere, John Wesley Harding has recorded a whole album of his songs called appropriately enough 'Trad arr Jones', which is also excellent. Three of Nic's albums at least are available at Fish Records over here if anyone's interested (as they may be difficult to find Stateside). Perhaps Neil Pearson of Fish can confirm (I think he's on this list). Fish incidentally are probably the only place in Britain you can get hold of 'Paterson' and 'Courier', both of which were his 'Albums of the Month'....I don't know how many people he's introduced to Richard's music but there are quite a few that I know of (I count myself as one). Cheers, Gerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 08:42:50 +0000 From: Jennifer Coia Subject: [RS] Morristown I went to the Morristown show last night, mainly to see Richard and Dave & Tracy. I haven't seen Richard live in probably two years and it was so great to see him again...His guitar playing is so lush and beautiful. I never really liked the song Transit that much and usually skip over it, but hearing it live last night really changed my perspective. The audience was right there with him and laughed along, though I guess being from Jersey probably really makes that song resonate! Thought his opening set was too short, of course. I loved D&T too. They definately added energy to the show. You could feel the energy level in the audience rise during their set which, to me, is a beautiful part of music..how it can instantly transform an energy level in a group of people. Their set was also too short. I think that show would have been better overall if it was billed as a 3 act show, each with and hour set. This is a great week's span of shows for me. That show last night. Kenny White tonight in NYC, Natalie Merchant on Saturday, Voices on the Verge Tues, Jennie Stearns and Over the Rhine on Wed. ahhhh. I knew I moved to NYC for a reason. Have a good one, jc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 09:58:39 -0500 From: Vanessa Christina Wills Subject: Re: [RS] Morristown I love that about them, too. Any concert hall becomes a church, any night becomes a mystical experience. Those two are truly something else. - --V Jennifer Coia wrote: >I >loved D&T too. They definately added energy to the show. You could feel the energy level in the audience rise during their set which, to >me, is a beautiful part of music..how it can instantly transform an energy level in a group of people. > - -- Niles: I used to think they [the back-row hooligans] were mean. Now, I know they were just acting out of frustration. Frasier: So, when Billy Kriedle tried to stuff you into your locker after math class, he wasn't mad at you. He was mad at Pythagoras!" Niles: Mmm. Which is ironic, because a simple volume equation would have shown him I couldn't fit. Frasier: Ah. -"Frasier" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 10:07:55 EST From: LBECKLAW@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: there is no sin In a message dated 2/28/2002 4:56:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org writes: > Jim > shaming his welsh and irish forefathers > > Jim, How can you be ashamed of your bad Celtic self, when on this very list I've asked such inane questions as "what is a shanachie?" and "Is By Now really evil?" Surely I have raised the ignorance bar, if only a wee bit. I thought I was making it safe to ask questions like this. Isn't it great that you got an answer to the question about the bodhran in like 5 minutes flat? Laura ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V4 #72 **********************************