From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V4 #2 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Wednesday, January 2 2002 Volume 04 : Number 002 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] old folkies... ["Rachel Rubin Ladutke" ] [RS] Erratum [Lisa Davis & family ] [RS] 2002 ["Norman A. Johnson" ] [RS] old folkies, as the chapin song used to say [Jimcolbert@aol.com] [RS] Re: 2001 [Phueber@aol.com] [RS] darkness, darkness [Katrin.Uhl@t-online.de (Katrin Uhl)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 12:35:23 -0800 From: "Rachel Rubin Ladutke" Subject: [RS] old folkies... Utah Phillips comes to mind. I was really bummed he didn't come to Falcon Ridge last year...I'd love to see him live. Just listened to FELLOW WORKERS, one of his collaborations with Ani, yesterday. I got to see Dave van Ronk about three years back. Hope he's doing better...I heard recently he was ill? Rachel 8O) Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 16:12:27 EST From: LBECKLAW@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: folk music veterans Is Pete Seeger still alive? And wouldn't he count? We love him at our house (kids of all ages). I also like a CD of other artists (e.g. Jackson Browne) covering Pete's songs. Sweeter than Wine's my favorite. Happy New Year! Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 16:26:10 -0500 From: Lisa Davis & family Subject: Re: [RS] Re: folk music veterans LBECKLAW@aol.com wrote: > > Is Pete Seeger still alive? And wouldn't he count? > We love him at our house (kids of all ages). I forget how old your kids are Laura. Fond memories of dancing around to the Weavers, singing "Tena" and tossing them up in the air (well, my husband did!). Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 16:29:27 -0500 From: Lisa Davis & family Subject: Re: [RS] 2001 "alan.teather" wrote: > > out to write darkish songs, they could easily be full of post teenage > angst-weltschmerz (is that used in English? If not, I'll look up a > translation), > > Not sure this term is used in England Well I don't know about the combination, but "angst" certainly is here - -- and richard's songs are loaded with angst. Then again, for gloom there's always John Gorka "Life is full of disappointments/ yes and I am full of life..." for great lines. He is one of the great one-liners. Or couplets, really. So tell me, folks, since I haven't bought any since 9 to 5, (?) are the new ones boringly cheerful? Any of them bitter, gloomy, or at least tragic? the latest one? AS to "weltschmertz" wasn't that the term (from Goethe) describing a sort of world-weary blues, you might say? I think somehow of a romantic disaffection with the universe, somewhat cynical old-before-my-time kind of air, but what comes to mind are *French* writers. De Musset. Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 16:34:22 -0500 From: Lisa Davis & family Subject: [RS] Erratum Oops. Between 5 and 7. I knew a 5 was in there somewhere. I guess that tells you how often I've played it. Then again, I broke my 3 x rule, I think, and didn't give it enough chances. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 18:42:02 -0500 From: "Norman A. Johnson" Subject: [RS] 2002 My favorite album of 2002 is COURIER. >> Is Pete Seeger still alive? And wouldn't he count? We love him at our house (kids of all ages). I also like a CD of other artists (e.g. Jackson Browne) covering Pete's songs. << Yes and he was born in 1919. I heard Jackson's cover of "Guantanamera" recently on WRSI. Norman ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 20:58:47 EST From: Jimcolbert@aol.com Subject: [RS] old folkies, as the chapin song used to say In a message dated 1/1/02 2:59:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org writes: > Well I guess we'd count Tom Paxton, at least peripherally, perhaps Patrick > Sky, who still plays around and certainly Odetta and even Joan Baez to a > degree. I might also count ol' Vince Martin in this group. I guess what I was actually thinking of was the few years that preceded the bleeker and mcdougal period of right around 1960 before the big folk boom... kind of the time around when Woody was in the hospital and folk music was petering out before it would flame up again; when Pete Seeger (whom I overlooked, shame on myself) and Cisco and Ramblin' Jack were traveling over to England and enlightening people who would listen across the pond. From nearly as far back as the icons you've named, we also have Eric Andersen and Tom Rush, neither of whom seem all that fashionable but have been playing since the early 60's, and have made some stunning (albeit in both cases, often spotty) music over the years. jpc sneaking a peek at the digest through the aol account ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 23:53:25 EST From: Phueber@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: 2001 Pat wrote, regarding Jeffrey Foucault and Eric Taylor: > I hate to be the raincloud with regard to this particular parade, but as > a measure of balance, this is a very sombre (Hi, Kerry!), bleak CD. While > the writing is exceptional, and Jeffrey's voice and phrasing is *very > reminiscent of Peter Mulvey's, the mood of the CD is *very* low-key. and... > I saw Eric for the first time last year after wanting to hear him for a > long time . . . he definitely is one of our better songwriters, but the > bulk of his work is also dark and moody. Hey Pat, I think you have spotted a trend. ;-) I am definitely drawn towards dark and moody songs. This is probably why I like John Gorka's older music better than his newer songs, in general. BTW Alan, Let Them In was actually written over ten years ago. David Wilcox recorded it on his Home Again CD. I'm glad John finally got around to recording it. It is one of my favorite songs of his. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 08:50:26 +0100 From: Katrin.Uhl@t-online.de (Katrin Uhl) Subject: [RS] darkness, darkness > Pat remarked on the darkness and non-happiness of Jeffrey Foucault and Eric Taylor's music, to which Paul responded: > Hey Pat, I think you have spotted a trend. ;-) I am > definitely drawn > towards dark and moody songs. I second that. There's this guy, you might have heard of him, called Richard Shindell who is really good in writing darkish songs, too. There are people who I've heard saying that there is no such thing as a happy Richard Shindell song. But that was a while back and I'll have to take a thorough look at his latest work to see if that still holds true. HAPPY Wednesday (arg... back to work for me) Katrin ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V4 #2 *********************************