From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V3 #473 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Thursday, December 20 2001 Volume 03 : Number 473 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Re: review of Richard Shindell's CD "Courier" [Rongrittz@aol.com] [RS] Re: Courier redux [LBECKLAW@aol.com] [RS] Courier reviews ["Sally Green" ] [RS] sonora [jim colbert ] Re: [RS] sonora [Jeff Gilson ] [RS] happpppyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!! [Katrin.Uhl@t-online.de (Katrin Uhl)] [RS] Re: happpppyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!! ["Dave McKay" ] Re: [RS] happpppyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!! [Lisa Davis & family ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 07:32:47 EST From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: review of Richard Shindell's CD "Courier" << Did you folks see this? >> Interesting, although it doesn't really seem to be a review of the live CD as much as it is a cutting and pasting of a bunch of lyrics from Richard's songs. I'm really looking forward to seeing some actual reviews . . . RG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 10:48:24 EST From: LBECKLAW@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: Courier redux I enjoyed Kevin McCarthy's review of Courier a lot--wasn't Kevin McCarthy the star of Invasion of the Bodysnatchers? But I digress... I lol at the line about Courier being a "greatest hits" album, because I anticipated that this statement would be a controversial and strenuously objected to one to put forth here on this list. We all know that at least one of our personal Greatest Hits is absent here, but there's no pleasing us, at least collectively. Glad to hear Richard and his family are okay in Buenos Aires. Thanks, Toby! When I saw the news on CNN (why am I so addicted to CNN since 9/11? Any shrinks hazard a guess?)I was very anxious and have been worried ever since...in a Jewish mother way. You never know how embellished or magnified news is when it comes from far away. Laura Media Hound, Howling at the Trouble ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:13:11 -0500 From: "Sally Green" Subject: [RS] Courier reviews RonG wrote: >Interesting, although it doesn't really seem to be a review of the live CD as >much as it is a cutting and pasting of a bunch of lyrics from Richard's >songs. I'm really looking forward to seeing some actual reviews . . . Although since it's not officially released until February 2002, I wouldn't think we would see many until then, eh? - --Sally sallyagreen@hotmail.com http://members.tripod.com/sagreen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:16:38 -0500 From: jim colbert Subject: [RS] sonora Following my Sonora's death row question, Arthur offered: ?" I guess Kevin Farrell musta sung it at some stage ????????????? Otherwise how did the rest of ......[complete the sentence] Not necessarily a given; you don't exactly trip over Diane Warren records but you can't get out of earshot of her songs! Same with, say, don schlitz, harlan howard... Certainly doesn't mean he never put out a record, though. BTW, I have since found out Michael Muphy also did it on one of his Cowboy songs discs, if anyone gives a HRA. Jim Colbert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:36:11 -0500 From: Jeff Gilson Subject: Re: [RS] sonora Jim wrote: >Certainly doesn't mean he never put out a record, though. BTW, I have >since found out Michael Muphy also did it on one of his Cowboy songs >discs, if anyone gives a HRA. Hairy? jeff. - -- If I was afraid to break or bleed I would find someone much easier to need --Dave Carter - -- writing by osmosis http://www.onefreeradical.com/osmosis/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 23:28:13 +0100 From: Katrin.Uhl@t-online.de (Katrin Uhl) Subject: [RS] happpppyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!! It's here! The courier is here! Two of them. :) Big :) so I was riding my bike home from work on a day that was so stressful that I completely forgot that I had made a haircut appointment until an hour too late... grumbling and not a happy camper because my nose was freezing off cycling home... thinking how today is the last day I get my mail before X-mas because I'm leaving tomorrow and giving in to the realization that I would have to spend X-mas without the courier. And I open the mailbox and nothing but bills....walk up the stairs and there it is. Almost stepped on it. And now the CD is sitting on my table and I don't dare listening to it because I got so used to anticipating it that I want it to be the perfect first listening experience :) Maybe tomorrow on the train. Isn't that silly? ah, life is good again. Except for I'll have to make do without a new haircut for X-mas. But, oh well, who needs a haircut if she can have the courier... :-) Katrin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 23:09:16 -0000 From: "Dave McKay" Subject: [RS] Re: happpppyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!! My sis got a l-i-t-t-l-e overexcited, then: > And now [Courier] is sitting on my table and I don't dare listening to it > because I got so used to anticipating it that I want it to be the perfect > first listening experience :) Maybe tomorrow on the train. Isn't that silly? Be careful now ... remember what happened when I took Courier on a train journey last weekend! Dave. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 20:29:07 EST From: FJPQ@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] happpppyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!! Katrin wrote: << But, oh well, who needs a haircut if she can have the courier... :-) >> well gee...I've had my Courier for a couple and I still need a haircut. I say get a haircut when you want one Katrin...you NEEDED the Courier! Fran :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 22:46:47 -0500 From: "Norman A. Johnson" Subject: [RS] Nora Pardon me for usurping Ron's role as SOTW leader but it's that time of the year again.... and we have several newbies. My favorite RS song... Nora. Norman NORA New York has been buried in snow since last Saturday The papers said the storm had passed over you Thank you for the play you wrote about Heloise And her injury at the hand of an almighty memory And I might have guessed That you'd pressed a rose in the pages Where Abelard confesses His love and his pain To her lips And Nora, it was no sin They could turn the other cheek Or take it on the chin But Nora, it was no sin So Christmas was as blue for you as it was for me All those angels trumpeting their ecstasy Your husband has accepted the parish in Greenland I met him drowning his vows at the bar And there we raised The first and the next And a third glass to you Hunched on our barstools Calling our truce By your name And Nora, there is no sin We can turn the other cheek Or take it on the chin But Nora, there is no sin Nora, there is no sin Nora, there is no sin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 23:25:09 -0500 From: Lisa Davis & family Subject: Re: [RS] happpppyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!! > ah, life is good again. Except for I'll have to make do without a new > haircut for X-mas. But, oh well, who needs a haircut if she can have the > courier... :-) Hell, cut it yourself and you can buy another two copies... lisa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 23:46:59 -0500 From: Jeff Gilson Subject: Re: [RS] Nora Nor(m)a(n) wrote: >Pardon me for usurping Ron's role as SOTW leader but it's that time of the >year again.... and we have several newbies. > >My favorite RS song... Nora. Can I just say that the version on Courier breaks my heart every time I hear it? No? Ah darn. Too late. Of course, there isn't a single song on Courier I don't prefer to the studio version. The first four discs will be getting a rest for a while now. >NORA > >New York has been buried in snow since last Saturday >The papers said the storm had passed over you >Thank you for the play you wrote about Heloise >And her injury at the hand of an almighty memory > >And I might have guessed >That you'd pressed a rose in the pages >Where Abelard confesses >His love and his pain >To her lips Ah, Heloise and Abelard. So many pop songs about these two nowadays. :-} It's an interesting thing, contrasting their illicit affair with that of H&A. Especially considering what happened to those two, and Nora's husband the minister. >Or take it on the chin >But Nora, it was no sin Anyone else notice that this was the only rhyme in the song? >So Christmas was as blue for you as it was for me >All those angels trumpeting their ecstasy Nice use of ecstasy, here, when one assumes Narr. and Nora's relationship was sexual. (Of course, there's nothing here to prove that it was. I just realized that.) >Your husband has accepted the parish in Greenland >I met him drowning his vows at the bar I love this couplet. We learn, in a very compact space, that Nora's husband is a minister, he's taking a job in another town (Greenland isn't necessarily the big island to the northeast), that he's depressed, and drinking. >And there we raised >The first and the next >And a third glass to you >Hunched on our barstools >Calling our truce >By your name And then we have this. With the above lines, it seems to indicate that Nora has left both of them, and this has given them some manner of common ground. I love this song. It's like a movie, but less obviously so than, say, The Courier, May, or Fishing. It's full of quiet desperation, longing, and inactivity. It's like a story I would have written (you'll just have to trust me on that one, being unpublished and whatnot). jeff. - -- I'm sitting here in Dallas, a dive in Texas with an ache like a forearm for the spoon I am peeling back the labels I'm spinning empty bottles on the bar lonely litters the room -- Beth Amsel - -- writing by osmosis http://www.onefreeradical.com/osmosis/ ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V3 #473 ***********************************