From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V3 #461 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Sunday, December 16 2001 Volume 03 : Number 461 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Re: As if! [LBECKLAW@aol.com] [RS] Re: she said, he said [LBECKLAW@aol.com] Re: [RS] Re: she said, he said ["Darry Madden" ] [RS] it's a soul salvation [Pfleary@aol.com] [RS] just a test ["John Melillo" ] [RS] Kate Rusby Songbook. [Rongrittz@aol.com] [RS] Everyman Shindell [Katie Mahoney ] [RS] songbook price ["Sally Green" ] [RS] Songbooks n' screams. [Rongrittz@aol.com] Re: [RS] memory of you [Joe Lanzalotto ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 09:13:48 EST From: LBECKLAW@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: As if! Darry, A pretty darned wonderful world, I think! But not likely, outside of the movies, that is...(wistful sigh). Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 09:21:04 EST From: LBECKLAW@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: she said, he said Maybe what this friend of Darry's meant about Courier is that it definitely has a different quality ( being live and with creative license being taken on songs) from the studio-recorded Richard. In other words...in the translation from studio to live, many of the songs have made some transformations and evolutions which some purists may not be happy with. Me? I think (and this is unusual) many of the songs on Courier have improved over their "original" versions. Not only is there a palpable energy there, but ohmygosh Lucy really does bring a lot to these songs, doesn't she? I even like MOY now, didn't before. Just my 2 cents, for what they're worth. This guy sounds like a bit of a grinch to me. Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 10:18:15 -0500 From: "Darry Madden" Subject: Re: [RS] Re: she said, he said Exactly! darry - ---------- >From: LBECKLAW@aol.com >To: >Subject: [RS] Re: she said, he said >Date: Sat, Dec 15, 2001, 9:21 AM > > Me? I think (and this is unusual) many of the songs on Courier have > improved over their "original" versions. Not only is there a palpable energy there ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 10:44:29 EST From: Pfleary@aol.com Subject: [RS] it's a soul salvation >>Where in Nor Cal, and on what stations, are you hearing Richard in Northern California<< >>i'm not peter but i can answer that question...krcb in sonoma county plays richard usually on the saturday afternoon folk show. don't think we have the new cd yet (oh wait, i know we won't get it till it's supposedto come out)91.1 and 90.9 in santa rosa. yahoo. do they play him on krsh? i nkow the sunday morning folk dj - she might play him. can't listen though, i have to do that religion thing on sudnay mornings. katie<< Woops! Sorry Lee, I thought I had answered your question, but am now realizing that I had a conversation about this very topic on IM with Susan! Thnaks Katie for responding. Yeah, I ws going to mention Our Roots are Showing on KRCB (90.9 and 91.1)saturday afternoons. Also as you mentioned KRSH's (98.7)Sunday morning show(Uncorked)plays Richard. (this is my religion, I worship at the church of the acostic guitar ;-)) That's where I heard the live Courier last weekend. With a Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning folk show to listen to I feel pretty blessed. The rest of the week, I play my CD's! Peter ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 17:29:37 -0500 From: "John Melillo" Subject: [RS] just a test ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 17:50:49 EST From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: [RS] Kate Rusby Songbook. For any Kate Rusby fans out there, I've just heard that a songbook featuring 40 of her songs is available through her website at: http://www.purerecords.demon.co.uk/merch.htm The site says it's 12 pounds or something. I dunno, that seems pretty heavy for a songbook. RG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 18:49:18 -0500 From: Katie Mahoney Subject: [RS] Everyman Shindell >There is, however, one local fellow who indulges me. Last night he claimed >that Courier lacked the "everyman" quality of Richard's previous recordings. Kind of like when one of our family friends who was Richard's college prof told us last year that he'd heard RS a couple of times, but the songs were too "easy listening" for his taste. I knew that someday I'd stumble upon the perfect two-word phrase to describe Richard's music when people ask me about it . . . Ciao! Katie ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 20:27:51 -0500 From: "Sally Green" Subject: [RS] songbook price Ron "True Gritzz" Greitzer wrote: >The site says it's 12 pounds or something. > >I dunno, that seems pretty heavy for a songbook. > >RG Tee hee! I think your double entendre is very amusing. I was just about to write a serious message back saying "The Dar songbook is 20 bucks, which I think is overpriced," but then I figured you were making a joke. Were you? Anyway, I just ordered my two copies of Courier. I had to wait till I got paid for this month to order them! So I've had them shipped to my mom's house for the holidays. Weird music moment: I'm in Cleveland on business and I'm staying in the Hyatt Regency, and tonight, Saturday night, apparently O-Town, that boy band that got put together on TV, is staying here too. There are all these screaming teenagers (actually they're not screaming) waiting around here in herds. I wonder if that's what we all look like waiting for RS and others post-show, and if pop music fans think we're weird and annoying. Also, I was at this party tonight, also for work, and talked with someone who loves folk music. She talked about Cry Cry Cry and Richard, among other people. I told her that I LOVED him and that his music affects me really deeply. We RS fans really are everywhere! - --Sally sallyagreen@hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 21:51:53 EST From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: [RS] Songbooks n' screams. >> I think your double entendre is very amusing. I was just about to write a serious message back saying "The Dar songbook is 20 bucks, which I think is overpriced," but then I figured you were making a joke. Were you? << Well, yeah. ;-) Anyway, if the Kate book winds up being 20 bucks American, that doesn't seem to be outrageous, considering it's got FORTY SONGS in it, while Dar's has . . . what . . . twelve? >> I'm in Cleveland on business and I'm staying in the Hyatt Regency, and tonight, Saturday night, apparently O-Town, that boy band that got put together on TV, is staying here too. There are all these screaming teenagers (actually they're not screaming) waiting around here in herds. I wonder if that's what we all look like waiting for RS and others post-show, and if pop music fans think we're weird and annoying. << It's funny that you mention it, because I was wondering that same thing last night at the Dar show. I mean, we all snoot our noses at the screaming teenies on, like, MTV's Total Request Live, and all the Backstreet Boys and 'NSync types . . . but . . . I wonder how the screaming Dar and Ani drool-a-thons are really any different. I mean, one day this week I was listening to Dar's live CD, and realized how calculatedly the screaming audience was cranked up in the mix. It would have been easy, obviously, to dial down the audience reaction, but it actually seemed to be intentionally enhanced. Yeah, partially because that enthusiasm is actually THERE at a Dar show, but, well, I don't know . . . I recall Garth Brooks taking a lot of crap for the "enhanced" audience reaction on his live CD. Just seems a little bit like "Well, it's ok because it's US, and they're THEM." RG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 22:05:12 -0800 From: Joe Lanzalotto Subject: Re: [RS] memory of you jim colbert wrote: > I don't think it's the high point of Courier, but I personally wouldn't take it off. > Interestingly, the one tune I really didn't care about, AYHN, (and my only complaint is I've > heard it and played it too much; to this day it's the only richard I've ever heard on the radio > around here) I found had new life breathed into it. I lot of people have said that they have heard enough of AYHN and Kenworth. I guess I have in a way too, but think about it from another perspective. For people who have never heard Richard before, those are the songs with the immediate hooks, and after all, I would bet that he wants to attract new fans. I played my Courier CD for my sons, my sister and her husband today. None of them had ever even heard OF Richard Shindell before, nevermind heard him. They were all immediately drawn to those two songs, along with Sandy and Summer Wind. Its fair to say that the CDs aren't just for us hardcore fans. Interesting to watch my sons listen to the music. The little ones (twin boys ,2 years old) danced to the truckers trilogy, especially Kenworth, and the older ones - 17 and 20 year old young men - liked those but were fascinated by Sandy, Fishing and Courier. A man for all ages! > I do hope Transit replaces AYHN as the sort > of "theme song" for the Shindell Show, though. > That's what makes the world go round. I skip Transit everytime the CD rolls around to it! Joe ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V3 #461 ***********************************