From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V3 #419 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Tuesday, November 27 2001 Volume 03 : Number 419 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] lurking in the shadows [jim colbert ] [RS] poifect albums [Evan Hulka ] [RS] Perfect Albums [Derek Fong ] [RS] "Perfect Albums" ["Norman A. Johnson" ] [RS] how about near-perfect? [jim colbert ] Re: [RS] Perfect Albums ["Kristen Myshrall" ] Re: [RS] Re: I am, am not, am too [Janet Cinelli ] Re: [RS] Perfect Albums ["Kristen Myshrall" ] [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V3 #418 [Tom926@aol.com] [RS] Skip-free albums [Buffy ] [RS] Perfect Albums ["Candy Funston" ] Re: [RS] Skip-free albums [Rongrittz@aol.com] [RS] Fwd: Perfect Albums? [Rongrittz@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:02:04 -0800 From: jim colbert Subject: [RS] lurking in the shadows > Jim, > > Does the list protocol define one as a lurker after you've been relatively > silent for, say,a few weeks? Or longer? What means lurker? Hey, I know, let's start a big argument about it! he he he I actually don't see too many lurkers as I think of them here like I do on a few motorcycle-oriented lists where people will be silent for six months or so and then see a subject they know something about (hey! a 1975 CB400F handlebar question!) and pop up like a jack-in-the-box. I think lurking, like the midwest and new york, is also a state of mind! jpc about to head out to his playwright's group ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:02:20 -0500 From: Evan Hulka Subject: [RS] poifect albums Simon and Garfunkel's "Sounds of Silence" and "Bridge Over Troubled Water" (ok, the cover of "Bye Bye Love" on the latter is kinda pointless, but it *does* work with the album) the Pogues' "If I Should Fall From Grace With God" (European issue; the American version adds two worthless filler tracks) and on an entirely different note, Green Day's "Dookie" - again, a few weaker tracks, but nothing that seems out of its context. Hulka +---------------------------------+ Evan Hulka hulka@jhu.edu +---------------------------------+ "They who give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Benjamin Franklin) +---------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:03:36 -0800 (PST) From: Derek Fong Subject: [RS] Perfect Albums time for me to delurk: =) here's my eclectic "short" list...(out 600+ CDs i own) Dave Brubeck: "Time Out" Sarah Maclachlan: "Fumbling Towards Ecstacy" The Who: Who's Next Yo-Yo Ma: Suites for Unaccompanied Cello (CBS release, circa 1978) Cheryl Wheeler: Sylvia's Hotel John Gorka: I Know Dar Williams: "The Honesty Room" Richard Shindell: "Somewhere Near Patterson" (SP is a close call) Loreena McKennitt: The Mask and the Mirror Counting Crows: August and Everything After - -Derek ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:00:47 -0500 From: "Norman A. Johnson" Subject: [RS] "Perfect Albums" Lisa wrote: >> I'm interested in other peoples' "perfect" albums, the short list. << RonG responded: >>Jackson Browne's "Late for the Sky." << What Ron said. Except for Dar's live album, I think I have listened to LFTS more than any other album in the last couple of months-- and I continually find new thiungs in it. A couple of years ago, someone on this list said this album had some great songs but that it was uneven. That person is wrong. Wait, that person was me. I was wrong. It's an exceptional album. Other ones for the list in addition to SP and LFTS: Dar- THE GREEN WORLD or THE HONESTY ROOM Paul Simon - LIVE RHYMING or THERE GOES RHYMING SIMON Norman "you could be laughing at me, you got the right" > >Short enough? > >RG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:13:12 -0800 From: jim colbert Subject: [RS] how about near-perfect? Perfect albums, eh? hmm, I see we already have late for the sky represented... and the opening guitar intro to that, lindley's slide on the title cut remains probably my favorite intro to any album I can think of. (I have specifically excluded any shindell-specific content, including C3, which would have made it.) Hmmm. Marty Robbins, gunfighter ballads and trail songs. (the sound of head scratching.) Well, how bout some near-perfect albums instead: Boo Hewerdine and Darden Smith: evidence. catchy and hummable, yet utterly acoustic. what a concept. Iain Matthews: Pure and Crooked. Slick, true, but not a clinker in the bunch. I would have argued Matthews was a pretty good songwriter at this point. (I would not have bothered much thereafter.) Stan Rogers: Between the Breaks Live definitive at one time I probably would have included the first elvis costello album, but I haven't listened to that in years so time may have changed my opinion on that. Townes Van Zandt, live at the old quarter stark, acoustic and most all the classics. Dion Yo Frankie (don't scoff based on the artist alone. This is an overlooked gem of polished pop... familiar with the song "king of the new york streets" from in their own words? This is where it came from.) jpc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:22:54 -0600 From: "Kristen Myshrall" Subject: Re: [RS] Perfect Albums Sparrows Point Jordan's Sister...Kendall Payne Ten Year Night ...Lucy Kaplansky Little Earthquakes...Tori Amos Fumbling Towards Ecstasy...Sarah McLachlan Kristen www.angelfire.com/folk/lucykaplansky .Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:22:01 -0800 (PST) From: Janet Cinelli Subject: Re: [RS] Re: I am, am not, am too I too feel left out of all this "conversation" because the computer I have is ancient that I cannot download it. I wish I could hear it and add my 2 cents to the mix! I did get my winter solstice cd but I'm just not in the mood for Christmas, which makes it impossible to listen to this cd! Oh well! Janet : ( - --- Lee Wessman wrote: > I feel so left out because I haven't heard "I Am" > yet. I don't even > get to engage in the argument, despite my love of a > good debate. Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:25:55 -0600 From: "Kristen Myshrall" Subject: Re: [RS] Perfect Albums Oh No I forgot Mortal City....Dar Williams phew much better Kristen www.angelfire.com/folk/lucykaplansky .Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:27:55 EST From: Tom926@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V3 #418 Off the top of my head, a list of 10. Ask me again in five minutes and I will have a few more for ya: Richard & Linda Thompson: Shoot Out the Lights The Smiths: The Queen Is Dead Maura O'Connell: Blue Is the Colour of Hope Throwing Muses: Throwing Muses Jennifer Warnes: Famous Blue Raincoat REM: Murmur Lucinda Williams: Lucinda Williams Mary Margaret O'Hara: Miss America Marshall Crenshaw: Marshall Crenshaw Janis Ian: Between the Lines Pavement: "Slanted and Enchanted" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:07:22 +0000 From: Buffy Subject: [RS] Skip-free albums Hmmmm....interesting....Skip-free albums..... Actually, there aren't that many. One that springs to mind is 'Living with Ghosts', by Patty Griffin. I never skip any tracks on that. I don't actually skip too many (if any) on Sparrow's Point, actually, even though I'm never sure that it's my favourite Richard album. I know I'm in the minority but I think Reunion Hill is probably my favourite, yet I usually skip 'Smiling' and 'Darkness Darkness'. It's a close call, though. The presence of Nora AND You Again do swing it a little for me. It's quite a fun critierium by which to measure albums - not that many stand the test, now that I think about it! buffy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:48:53 -0800 From: "Candy Funston" Subject: [RS] Perfect Albums These are my skip-free, hear a dozen times in a row, favorite. And I do mean, listen a dozen times in a row, usually at my work computer... over and over and over and over... That's MY test of a classic, never getting sick of it. SNP is getting close to being on the list as well. (Yes, I've worn out room-mates by doing this) Jonatha Brooke, Plumb Peter Mulvey, The Trouble with Poets Dire Straits, Brothers in Arms Pink Flyod, A Momentary Lapse of Reason (You'll allow me my Flyod, since someone has already mentioned Oingo Boingo.) And I agree with JT's Mud Slide Slim and CSN's CSN. As of I Am, just finished listening to it. I agree with Vanessa, it's missing something, but it's still good. And I agree with Gene, subject matter withstanding. Back to Lurker-dome for me... Candy ps, wake me when we talk about motorcycle handlebars again. I'll have something to add to That discussion. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:26:40 EST From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] Skip-free albums << Actually, there aren't that many. One that springs to mind is 'Living with Ghosts', by Patty Griffin. I never skip any tracks on that. >> Um, yeah, what Buffy said. RG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:31:17 EST From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: [RS] Fwd: Perfect Albums? From: Chip Robertson Subject: Perfect Albums? Of course, the Jersey shore boy in me wouldn't allow me not to list: Bruce Springsteen - Born To Run Others in no particular order: The Clash - London Calling ****Punk Meets Pure Pop*** Bob Dylan - Blood On The Tracks*** any explanation needed?*** Tina Vero - In The Waiting ****The Pholk Goddess with the voice of an angel and killer guitar chops*** Can't include my own album until I record it. Let's do this list again next year. chip ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V3 #419 ***********************************