From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V3 #394 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Monday, November 5 2001 Volume 03 : Number 394 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [RS] "Love, Before You Go." [TRNMT@aol.com] [RS] now, hold on just a sec [Vanessa Wills ] Re: [RS] "Love, Before You Go." [FJPQ@aol.com] Re: [RS] "Love, Before You Go." [TRNMT@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 10:58:17 EST From: TRNMT@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] "Love, Before You Go." Fresh from her trip, Vanessa wrote: > While it's a bit odd for a father to refer to his son as "Love" > > Not so strange-- God is identical with Jesus and God is also identical with > Love, then Jesus is identical with Love. Of course, a lot depends on whether > you accept that God is either of those things. > > Well, as one who does accept those things I see it, and think the song (on paper) is a beauty. I'm thinking of using it in my Sunday School class when we get into advent as a conversation starter. I am kind of surprised my sister (get with the program, Fran) hasn't mentioned Charles Wesley's hymn "Love Divine, All Loves Excelling", in which he wrote: Love divine, all loves excelling, Joy of heaven to earth come down, Fix in us thy humble dwelling, All thy faithful mercies crown! Jesus, thou art all compassion, Pure, unbounded love thou art; Visit us with thy salvation, Enter every trembling heart. Nancy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 13:46:27 -0500 From: Vanessa Wills Subject: [RS] now, hold on just a sec Now, somehow this managed to slip under the radar while I was packing Monday. I can't think, off the top of my head, of a single Leonard Cohen song whose lyrics fail to stand on their own. But maybe I'm not thinking hard enough... Did you have one in mind? V, scratching her head jim colbert wrote: > Would I have shown much interest if I had read the song as lyrics without having heard it? Very likely not. But then, that is probably true of > most songs. (Leonard Cohen is a notable exception.) - -- "I still confuse mowing down with getting through." -Jeff Lang, "throw it all," from _Cedar Grove_ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 13:57:29 EST From: FJPQ@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] "Love, Before You Go." Nancy needled: << I am kind of surprised my sister (get with the program, Fran) hasn't mentioned Charles Wesley's hymn "Love Divine, All Loves Excelling", in which he wrote: Love divine, all loves excelling, Joy of heaven to earth come down, Fix in us thy humble dwelling, All thy faithful mercies crown! Jesus, thou art all compassion, Pure, unbounded love thou art; Visit us with thy salvation, Enter every trembling heart. Nancy >> Well, truth be told, I did consider commenting with a Wesley quote, but it wasn't from that hymn...I was thinking more of the mystical "Wrestling Jacob" where Charles takes us at once from Jacob's Old Testament wrestling with the Spirit and pleas to know its "name"..to his own New Testament revelation: "'Tis Love! 'tis Love! thou diest for me, I hear thy whisper in my heart. The morning breaks, the shadows flee, pure Universal Love thou art: to me, to all, thy mercies move- thy nature and they name is Love." snoozin' sister ....Fran :p ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 20:12:08 EST From: TRNMT@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] "Love, Before You Go." In a message dated 11/4/01 1:59:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, FJPQ@aol.com writes: > Well, truth be told, I did consider commenting with a Wesley quote, but it > wasn't from that hymn...I was thinking more of the mystical "Wrestling > Jacob" > where Charles takes us at once from Jacob's Old Testament wrestling with > the > Spirit and pleas to know its "name"..to his own New Testament revelation: > > See, this is why it was a good thing for me to run off and join the Presbyterians... I was a lousy Methodist : P . Fran is still better at Wesleyan stuff than I. NT ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V3 #394 ***********************************