From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V3 #343 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Friday, October 5 2001 Volume 03 : Number 343 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Joan & Laugh, Laugh Laugh [RockinRonD@aol.com] [RS] Please Have A Seat... [RockinRonD@aol.com] Re: [RS] Tug Boat Captain?!?!?! and other tall tales [FJPQ@aol.com] Re: [RS] Tug Boat Captain?!?!?! and other tall tales [Vanessa Wills ] [RS] Re: waltzing matilda [Rongrittz@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 05:53:58 EDT From: RockinRonD@aol.com Subject: [RS] Joan & Laugh, Laugh Laugh In a message dated 10/4/2001 5:41:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Laura writes: > >>Hey Ron, I live in Southport, CT but Ridgefield, a more pastoral and > beautiful > village, is 20 minutes away, 30 if you take the back roads. Did you get > married at the Elms?<< > Whoa! Southport! Are you neighbors with Don Imus perchance? I am duly impressed. Actually, we had the rehearsal dinner at The Elms, the wedding at Le Chateau n South Salem. Just found out also that Howie lived in the area the same time I did. He's right, there must be something in the water there. By the by, for those of you still reading, forgive me for mistyping Hugh Blumenfeld's name. Nothing like getting the name of your editor wrong, now is there? And to answer Norman, for sure Cry3 scooted along Richard's career much more than his touring with Joan ever did. But there is little doubt that the much bigger audiences at Joan's shows on that tour exposed him to even MORE people who probably loved his stuff, especially if Joan gave it her seal of approval by covering his songs. Awkward as that last sentence may be, Gene F, is right--Joan no doubt helped his career, the matter of degree (vs Cry3) is up for debate. Having interviewed all three Cry members smack in the middle of that tour, I can tell you that all three were like giddy schoolchildren from the second they began traveling together. I'll never forget how silly and completely hysterical all three were during the New York Times photo shoot we did at Fordham U.--even the photographer couldn't stop laughing as she was posing them. I'm only sad I wasn't able to capture that silliness in my article--then again, the Times Magazine is pretty conservative and never ran my interview in its entirety. For sure, Richard was a more relaxed and jovial person on stage after hanging with Dar and Lucy for a year. But then again, who wouldn't be? Ron (P.S. Laura--if you're now a Gorka fan, don''t miss "Jack's Crows" his best earlier work IMHO) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 06:07:53 EDT From: RockinRonD@aol.com Subject: [RS] Please Have A Seat... This is a call, a pleading actually, to RonG, Gene F. and Vanessa W:: FOR GOD'S SAKE, I'M BEGGING YOU ALL...GET SOME THERAPY!!! Thank You. ;-p RecoverinRonD ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 07:09:13 EDT From: FJPQ@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] Tug Boat Captain?!?!?! and other tall tales Vanessa wrote: << A tug boat Captain? Fran, please don't tell me you were actually hoping that Richard would look like a tug boat Captain. >> Vanessa, I said I he must look like a tug boat captain I knew...a real one... believe me it wasn't meant to be a negative comment...sounds like you're doing a bit of tug boat Capt'n sterotyping young lady! :p This whole beard thing is not nearly as disturbing to me as the image I have of Dave and Tracy playing "back-up" for Joan....talk about frightening thoughts! Fran ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 07:26:30 -0400 From: Vanessa Wills Subject: Re: [RS] Tug Boat Captain?!?!?! and other tall tales FJPQ@aol.com wrote: > I said I he must look like a tug boat captain I knew...a real one... Oh. Well, I suppose that's acceptable. :-P > sounds like you're doing a bit > of tug boat Capt'n sterotyping young lady! :p Ya darn tootin! > This whole beard thing is not nearly as disturbing to me as the image I have > of Dave and Tracy playing "back-up" for Joan....talk about frightening > thoughts! Actually, I know what you mean. I can't imagine d&t playing second fiddle (literally!) to ANYONE. So weird. Peace, V - -- "I still confuse mowing down with getting through." -Jeff Lang, "throw it all," from _Cedar Grove_ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 14:38:50 GMT From: Kate Morris Subject: [RS] The lurker's thoughts on Joan B Speaking as a representative of the "if my parents like it, it must suck" generation... if I had known about Joan B's connection with Richard Shindell, I never would have touched his CDs. My mother used to listen to Joan Baez all too often, and her songs are forever associated in my mind with the image of my mother vaccuuming the living room and singing at the top of her lungs to a scratchy old record. Ugh... I suddenly feel a very strong need for a shower. Anyway, I might be in the minority here, but this particular pre-twenty-something has a strong aversion to "old" music and musicians. I started listening to Shindell mostly because of Dar, partly because of a friend, and slightly because my parents had never heard of him. _____ Kate "Thorokano" Morris "I refuse to participate in a battle of wits against an unarmed opponent. Target practice, however, is something else entirely." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 11:13:06 EDT From: TRNMT@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] Tug Boat Captain?!?!?! and other tall tales Jersey girl/sister of mine Fran wrote: > This whole beard thing is not nearly as disturbing to me as the image I have > of Dave and Tracy playing "back-up" for Joan....talk about frightening > thoughts! > > uh...Fran...does that change our plans for 2/28 or are you planning on working up to the shock until then? Ron...if she backs out, I'll have a spare ticket : P NT ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 12:25:07 EDT From: LBECKLAW@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: say wha? Ron, Vanessa, other sages: With all due respect and reverence--I didn't sign up for the Advanced Placement class, did I? Granted, I just glanced at these really quickly, but still...why am I having a flashback to the Calculus exam I took in 11th grade (and subsequently failed)? Ok, Ok, I know this is the path I have chosen, and I can only guess that success on this test will lead to...what, a promotion? I can only move up. I'll get back to you. I really don't want to be The Weakest Link Laura P.S. Are Cliff (Eberhardt) Notes permitted? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 12:28:12 EDT From: LBECKLAW@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: Dr. Evil In a message dated 10/5/2001 4:56:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org writes: << I think we've got some questions in the works for a Big, Bad, Mother of all tests bound to stump even the most hardcore among us. mwahaha >> Vanessa, There's been a horrible administrative error here--you've apparently sent me the BBM of all tests for the hardcore listers, and sent them the RS 101 version meant for newbies! Glad to point out this egregious but understandable error, Laura/Muttley ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 11:00:47 -0700 From: Lee Wessman Subject: [RS] waltzing matilda Wasn't the song "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda" about a soldier coming home to Australia from World War 1, after Gallipoli? I've never heard Bogle do it, but a friend used to play it and it was stunning. The same friend used to do a song called "Christmas in the Trenches" that was equally powerful. Does anybody know who wrote that one? What are the greatest songs you can think of about times of war? Some of them are certainly Richard's: "You Stay Here," "The Courier," "Sparrow's Point," "Arrowhead." - -lee ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 14:40:10 EDT From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: waltzing matilda >> The same friend used to do a song called "Christmas in the Trenches" that was equally powerful. Does anybody know who wrote that one? << Boy, this could sure be a Richard song . . . CHRISTMAS IN THE TRENCHES (John McCutcheon) My name is Francis Tolliver, I come from Liverpool. Two years ago the war was waiting for me after school. To Belgium and to Flanders, to Germany to here I fought for King and country I love dear. 'Twas Christmas in the trenches, where the frost so bitter hung, The frozen fields of France were still, no Christmas song was sung Our families back in England were toasting us that day Their brave and glorious lads so far away. I was lying with my messmate on the cold and rocky ground When across the lines of battle came a most peculiar sound Says I, ``Now listen up, me boys!'' each soldier strained to hear As one young German voice sang out so clear. ``He's singing bloody well, you know!'' my partner says to me Soon, one by one, each German voice joined in harmony The cannons rested silent, the gas clouds rolled no more As Christmas brought us respite from the war As soon as they were finished and a reverent pause was spent ``God Rest Ye Merry, Gentlemen'' struck up some lads from Kent The next they sang was ``Stille Nacht.'' ``Tis `Silent Night','' says I And in two tongues one song filled up that sky ``There's someone coming toward us!'' the front line sentry cried All sights were fixed on one long figure trudging from their side His truce flag, like a Christmas star, shown on that plain so bright As he, bravely, strode unarmed into the night Soon one by one on either side walked into No Man's Land With neither gun nor bayonet we met there hand to hand We shared some secret brandy and we wished each other well And in a flare-lit soccer game we gave 'em hell We traded chocolates, cigarettes, and photographs from home These sons and fathers far away from families of their own Young Sanders played his squeezebox and they had a violin This curious and unlikely band of men Soon daylight stole upon us and France was France once more With sad farewells we each prepared to settle back to war But the question haunted every heart that lived that wonderous night ``Whose family have I fixed within my sights?'' 'Twas Christmas in the trenches where the frost, so bitter hung The frozen fields of France were warmed as songs of peace were sung For the walls they'd kept between us to exact the work of war Had been crumbled and were gone forevermore My name is Francis Tolliver, in Liverpool I dwell Each Christmas come since World War I, I've learned its lessons well That the ones who call the shots won't be among the dead and lame And on each end of the rifle we're the same ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V3 #343 ***********************************