From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V3 #323 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Wednesday, September 26 2001 Volume 03 : Number 323 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Re: Outta Sights & Sounds [Rongrittz@aol.com] [RS] Re: Lullabies [L8NiteBluz@aol.com] [RS] For a Dancer. ["Norman A. Johnson" ] [RS] New London [NHEMSRN@aol.com] Re: [RS] Lullaby [TRNMT@aol.com] [RS] Last Dance [RockinRonD@aol.com] [RS] Last Dance (Diana Ross?) ["Norman A. Johnson" ] [RS] Re: still more Jackson Browne [Rongrittz@aol.com] [RS] RS at the Rosendale Cafe [Roxylee ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:51:11 EDT From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: Outta Sights & Sounds >> RonG should be able to confirm what a good venue this is - I've met him there several times now. Richard has played there quite a few times too. << Absolutely. Comfortable seating, sloped sightlines (so you're not dodging the head of the person in front of you . . . unless they're really tall like some folks we know), and staffed by really nice folks. It's only a couple of miles off the New Jersey Turnpike's exit 8, so definitely check it out. I know I'LL be there on Saturday. After all, it's been practially WEEKS since I've seen Richard. RG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 17:59:12 EDT From: L8NiteBluz@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: Lullabies LOL....Laura, if you ever heard me sing you'd know why I use instrumental's as lullabies!! However, I must say, I do a hell of a harmony vocal on Wisteria....only in the privacy of my car of course!! :-) Seriously, all I need is a rocking chair and Sparrows Point on "repeat" play and within a very short time the fussies go away. Same can be said for Metheny's "Last Train Home".....must be the "chukka, chukka" train clatter noises I make while furiously rocking...LOL. And I have to agree with you on RS covering "Someone To Watch Over Me", I've often thought that would be a great cover for him to try.....Sting does a cool cover too. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 19:46:00 -0400 From: "Norman A. Johnson" Subject: [RS] For a Dancer. Laura (and everyone else): Below is part of what I posted to Dar list yesterday: One song that has gotten me through difficult times, both the last two weeks and before, is Jackson Browne's "For a dancer". JB's song and "After All" touch me in similar ways and I admire both artists for their bravery in these songs. Norman FOR A DANCER Keep a fire burning in your eye Pay attention to the open sky You never know what will be coming down I don't remember losing track of you You were always dancing in and out of view I must have thought you'd always be around Always keeping things real by playing the clown Now you're nowhere to be found I don't know what happens when people die Can't seem to grasp it as hard as I try It's like a song I can hear playing right in my ear That I can't sing I can't help listening And I can't help feeling stupid standing 'round Crying as they ease you down 'Cause I know that you'd rather we were dancing Dancing our sorrow away (Right on dancing) No matter what fate chooses to play (There's nothing you can do about it anyway) Just do the steps that you've been shown By everyone you've ever known Until the dance becomes your very own No matter how close to yours Another's steps have grown In the end there is one dance you'll do alone Keep a fire for the human race Let your prayers go drifting into space You never know what will be coming down Perhaps a better world is drawing near And just as easily it could all disappear Along with whatever meaning you might have found Don't let the uncertainty turn you around (The world keeps turning around and around) Go on and make a joyful sound Into a dancer you have grown From a seed somebody else has thrown Go on ahead and throw some seeds of your own And somewhere between the time you arrive And the time you go May lie a reason you were alive But you'll never know (c) 1974 SWALLOW TURN MUSIC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 20:04:28 EDT From: NHEMSRN@aol.com Subject: [RS] New London Any listers heading to the show thursday night? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 20:26:25 EDT From: TRNMT@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] Lullaby In a message dated 9/26/01 5:05:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, elwestrand@ureach.com writes: > I myself like Bruce Springsteen's cover of "Pony Boy" on "Human Touch". It put our son Andrew to sleep many a time. In fact, when he would go to someone else's home for a night, I made a tape of it played over and over and over. I think Richard would do a great "Pony Boy", and maybe Lucy K could harmonize. NT ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 20:51:01 EDT From: RockinRonD@aol.com Subject: [RS] Last Dance Jackson Browne's "For A Dancer" is indeed a powerful, moving song. If I recall correctly, Browne wrote it for his first wife, Phyllis, after she committed suicide. Am I wrong about this RonG? It is just one of the many musical miracles on "Late For The Sky." RonD ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 20:50:31 -0400 From: "Norman A. Johnson" Subject: [RS] Last Dance (Diana Ross?) RonD wrote: >> Jackson Browne's "For A Dancer" is indeed a powerful, moving song. If I recall correctly, Browne wrote it for his first wife, Phyllis, after she committed suicide. Am I wrong about this RonG? << You are wrong about this one Rocking Ron. Jackson wrote "For a Dancer" for Scotty Runyon, a dancer and multi-talented friend, who died in a fire in the fall of 1973. Here's a good JB page: www.jrp-graphics.com/jackson_browne.html A couple songs on JB's next album, THE PRETENDER, are about his wife's suicide. Norman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 20:54:09 -0400 From: "Norman A. Johnson" Subject: [RS] Speaking of the Pretender RS--"Just time enough to pass the tender" JB--"Caught between the longing for love and the struggle for the legal tender" Norman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:07:26 EDT From: OzWoman321@aol.com Subject: [RS] A Summer Song (Chad and Jeremy) Norman guessed: << Last Dance (Diana Ross?) >> Nope - Donna Summer... :-) Susan "...and the only word for love is everybody's name..." ~ Dar Williams ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:04:20 -0400 From: "Norman A. Johnson" Subject: [RS] What was that that I just said (John Gorka) >> Nope - Donna Summer... :-) << Of course. I knew that. Why did I think it was Diana Ross? Silly me. Norman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:29:35 EDT From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: Point in the Right Direction >> I would follow Lisa's advice and run out, post haste, and secure a copy of "Sparrow's Point" today. Then, and only then, can you truly be considered an offical Shindell Lister. << Of course, "official" Shindell-Listers know that there's no apostrophe in "Sparrows." ;-) Gotta remind myself to add that to the FAQ . . . RG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:35:58 EDT From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: Last Dance (Diana Ross?) >> A couple songs on JB's next album, THE PRETENDER, are about his wife's suicide. << From the FAQ on my friend Russ Paris' very excellent Unofficial Jackson Browne Web Site: "While songs such as 'Sleep's Dark and Silent Gate' were obviously inspired by his wife's suicide, Jackson claims most of the songs on The Pretender were recorded prior to her death.' http://www.jrp-graphics.com/jackson_browne.html RG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:31:25 -0400 From: "Norman A. Johnson" Subject: [RS] still more Jackson Browne >>"While songs such as 'Sleep's Dark and Silent Gate' were obviously inspired by his wife's suicide, Jackson claims most of the songs on The Pretender were recorded prior to her death.' << OK, ONE song from THE PRETENDER is about JB's wife's suicide. That's still more than those on LATE FOR SKY about said suicide. >>http://www.jrp-graphics.com/jackson_browne.html << Ron, tell you friend that it is a most excellent site! Norman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 23:02:10 -0400 From: patrick t power Subject: Re: [RS] still more Jackson Browne I was thinking just the other night about "Your Bright Baby Blues" . . . the term "baby blues", of course, refers to post-partum depression. Whether or not Jackson was making an *apropos* play on words, we'll probably never know, but the woman of "Linda Paloma" also happens to be the same woman (I believe) depicted in "Ready Or Not" from _For Everyman_. Pat ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 23:41:33 EDT From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: still more Jackson Browne << OK, ONE song from THE PRETENDER is about JB's wife's suicide. That's still more than those on LATE FOR SKY about said suicide. >> I'd certainly hope so, since "Late for the Sky" was released in 1974 and Jackson's first wife, Phyllis Major, died in 1976 . . . RG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 23:41:36 -0400 From: Roxylee Subject: [RS] RS at the Rosendale Cafe Well, I arrived late (it was a miracle I got there at all, long story) and I missed about 4 songs. RS had a bass player, and sorry, I did not get his name. The set list, minus the beginning songs: Arrowhead *a new one, about Love Transit Shades of Gray (Robert Earl Keen) Next Best Western Wisteria Mary Magdalene Kenworth of my Dreams Fishing Lazy Calling the Moon (Dar Williams) Kathy's Song (Paul Simon) encores: If I Had a Hammer (Lee Hays and Pete Seeger) Who Knows Where the Time Goes (Sandy Denny) Sorry, Gene, no Weather. Maybe next time. The place was packed out, and I think I got the last chair, in the aisle, next to the door. I didn't mind, since I was only 15 feet or less from the stage. When he walked back after the set, and before the encores, I had this little conversation with him: "Excuse me, Mr. Shindell, do you ever let anyone sing backup harmony with you?" "Sure, people sing with me all the time." "Really? Could I??" "From the audience, sure." (my wry smile here) Oh, well, I had to try. Then he went back onstage, while I consoled myself that at least I had permission to sing from my seat, which I did. :-) Yes, he does have a full beard. Not a long one, but it covers his face. It looked good. He said when all this was going on, he just didn't shave, and after 4 days, just let it keep growing. "The world has changed, and so has my face," he said. He asked for requests and I shouted for the Mary Ellen Carter. He didn't sing it, but sang Mary Magdalene instead. Close enough for me! :-) Someone asked for AYHN? and he said he doesn't do that one any more. After the show I got to chat with him some more, and when my kids came to pick me up, I introduced my 9 year old daughter to him. She told him her favorite song is AYHN? and relayed how she puts it in the CD player on repeat. I'm very glad I got to see him again, because he said he probably wouldn't be back in NY until next winter. He sounded great, was in good spirits, and the audience loved him. Ahhhh... music... I Am Happy Now. :-) Roxy ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V3 #323 ***********************************