From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V3 #307 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Tuesday, September 18 2001 Volume 03 : Number 307 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] sing me back home [jim colbert ] [RS] Re: Not in Our Son's Name [LBECKLAW@aol.com] [RS] Kevin Spacey ["Norman A. Johnson" ] Re: [RS] Re: Not in Our Son's Name ["L. Davis" ] Re: [RS] Re: Not in Our Son's Name [SMOKEY596@aol.com] [RS] Re: Not in Our Son's Name [Rongrittz@aol.com] Re: [RS] Re: Not in Our Son's Name [Lisa Davis & family Subject: [RS] sing me back home > Kate asked about the hidden track at the end of 'Reunion Hill.' It is titled > 'Sing Me Back Home,' and was written by Merle Haggard. It's also worth noting that, offhand, it is probably the easiest song of anything richard does in standard tuning, to play on guitar... jpc, weaned on Cash, Haggard and Robbins... and somewhere near port matilda, pa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:08:36 EDT From: LBECKLAW@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: Not in Our Son's Name I found the letter forwarded by Richard via Toby moving and thought-provoking. I can't imagine losing my child like that and not being in a senseless rage bent on avenging and "getting back" at those who were responsible. The sentiments in this letter are admirably measured and probably very sane...now I'm even more confused. Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:47:17 -0400 From: "Norman A. Johnson" Subject: [RS] Kevin Spacey Well, I've said Richard bears a resemblance to Kevin Spacey. Charlie informed me last week that he thinks Kevin Spacey should play the agent in "Fishing". Now, I read that Kevin Spacey can sing. Really. I read it in the New York Times (Monday's Arts section). Because of Tuesday's tragedy, the Latin Grammys became a benefit event. For some reason, Kevin Spacey performed "Bridge Over Troubled Waters". What the Times did not report is that Kevin Spacey will release an album featuring that song and "Ten Year Night". ;-) ;-) Norman ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:30:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "L. Davis" Subject: Re: [RS] Re: Not in Our Son's Name My son is 8 and I adore him. To be sure, he is not safe when we drive to New Hampshire in our car, nor when we go swimming on the beach. He is not safe from disease. He is not safe from random lunatics of the world, from accidents, from stupidity. But I feel now that he is especially not safe while this kind of evil and hatred is loose in the world. Also to be sure, there are many things this country may do that will not make him safer, and will hurt the sons of others. I am against those. And adding to the evil and hatred of these fanatics our own hatred and our own evil acts won't net out to a better world. BUT, if there is anything we can do that will stop these people, it must be done even at the risk of my son and others' sons. Because if 5,000 mommies and daddies don't come home, if 11-year-olds are blown up on planes, in our *own country,* by people who will stop at nothing and whose hatred will only make them try harder to do more, he isn't safe anymore as it is. For those who say "but look to the root causes," I know there are exacerbating conditions, injustice and wrong that has been done in the world that may have led to this. Lots of people think the reparations required of Germany as a result of WW I led to Hitler's rise. Thus, the Marshall Plan. It doesn't take away the need to do whatever it takes to stop these Nazis of our day. Lisa Davis ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:42:25 EDT From: SMOKEY596@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] Re: Not in Our Son's Name >>>, if 11-year-olds are blown up on planes, <<< Lisa, this is the story that has haunted me since this whole thing happened. Those poor children, chosen to go, each with a teacher, on this field trip to California. I saw photos of them, smiling, so happy. I can imagine how excited they were that morning to be getting on that plane, and I can't bear to think of their joy turning to terror in a matter of minutes or hours. Please, remember especially Asia Cottom, Rodney Dickens, and Bernard Brown in your prayers today. SMOKEY Atlantic Canada's Artists and Artisans www.gathering-of-artists.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 22:56:44 EDT From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: Not in Our Son's Name >> I can't imagine losing my child like that and not being in a senseless rage bent on avenging and "getting back" at those who were responsible. << I think people -- here, on the Dar-list, on pretty much every list I read -- are seriously confusing "revenge" and "getting back at them" with "doing anything we need to do to ensure that those who did this don't do it again." This is not nearly as punitive as it is preventative, because as someone once wrote: "History does not always repeat itself. Sometimes it just yells 'Can't you remember anything I told you?' and lets fly with a club." RG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:27:11 -0400 From: Lisa Davis & family Subject: Re: [RS] Re: Not in Our Son's Name I should have also said, my daughter Annie is 11, so I am particularly unable to forget those children. I stopped reading the NYT Metro Section a few years ago, simply unable to bear any more stories of child abuse and child murder. It's interesting, my son wants to hear all the details in a kind of no-nonsense fashion, my daughter buries her nose in a book and won't do anything except now and then, hug me. A recently retired partner in our firm lost his son, age 35, who left a 2-year-old and a newborn, and his wife. My "boss" down the hall remembers him as a child going to swimming lessons in the Yale gym. SMOKEY596@aol.com wrote: > > >>>, if 11-year-olds are blown up on planes, <<< > > Lisa, this is the story that has haunted me since this whole thing happened. > Those poor children, chosen to go, each with a teacher, on this field trip to > California. I saw photos of them, smiling, so happy. I can imagine how > excited they were that morning to be getting on that plane, and I can't bear > to think of their joy turning to terror in a matter of minutes or hours. > Please, remember especially Asia Cottom, Rodney Dickens, and Bernard Brown in > your prayers today. > > SMOKEY > Atlantic Canada's Artists and Artisans > www.gathering-of-artists.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:07:49 -0400 From: Lisa Davis & family Subject: Re: [RS] Re: National Anthem Ideas There is only one national anthem. "this land is your land." IMHO! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:11:04 -0400 From: Lisa Davis & family Subject: Re: [RS] Not in Our Son's Name - a note from Richard Toby I have a suggestion. Get Richard to open a hotmail account or something. Then he can give you folks the password or whatever so you can use it and clean it up by deleting all the fan mail and unwanted suggestions and listmessages Richard doesn't feel like reading. BUT, then he can post his own! :) The Kennedys do! Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:29:24 EDT From: SMOKEY596@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] Not in Our Son's Name - a note from Richard >>>Toby I have a suggestion. Get Richard to open a hotmail account or something. Then he can give you folks the password or whatever so you can use it and clean it up by deleting all the fan mail and unwanted suggestions and listmessages Richard doesn't feel like reading. BUT, then he can post his own! :) The Kennedys do!<<< Or, he could actually have a working, public email address and read the email that he gets, like Don and Ellis and Chris do, to name but a few. Even if they can't respond to all the email (and actually, I believe that they do), they do post to their own lists and message boards. Ah, but now we're getting into that fan/friend debate again, aren't we? :-) A different thought...I kind of thought that the whole country, perhaps the world, was mourning together, humbled by what has happened this past week, discovering the value of life. I guess not. Evil still lurks among us plain ol' blue eyed, blond haired, good ol' Americans. A deputy sheriff was shot and killed tonight in Indianapolis. My brother is a deputy sheriff here as well, so this hits close to home. I just can't believe life goes on for bad as well as for good after all this. This world just stinks sometimes. SMOKEY Atlantic Canada's Artists and Artisans www.gathering-of-artists.ca ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V3 #307 ***********************************