From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V3 #200 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Tuesday, June 19 2001 Volume 03 : Number 200 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] a quick gorka note and a little on the weather [jcolb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 07:35:55 -0400 From: jcolb Subject: [RS] a quick gorka note and a little on the weather > The album as a whole, though, I don't think stands up to his 2 previous. > Maybe I just haven't listened enough, but it's not doing much for me. On > the other hand, The Kennedy's forthcoming Positively Live is so outstanding > I've played it about 5 times since I got it on Fri. At the risk of tee'ing some people off, I don't feel taken as a whole anything gorka has done since, compares with his first three albums. (my gut reaction is he got married, left PA, got happy and that took the edge off his songwriting.) There have been definate shining moments since (and I can't imagine life without the fast folk solo demo of temporary road, that is just near-perfect to me), don't get me wrong, I did buy company you keep- I always buy his latest hoping for another "bottom line"- and I just saw him at outpost so you can't accuse me of bailing out completely. And I would go see him again. But to me, his music just doesn't touch me as much any more. I'm not saying it's bad, it just doesn't move me the way it used to. I'd even dismiss it as me becoming jaded, but I'm a very emotional guy and if anything, am way more moved by the right songs since all the crap that's gone on in my life the last few years. Now, hmm, the weather as SOTW, eh? Well, the absolute first thing I always think about on this song is the line "who cares about the weather," because that's sort of sacrilige to me, being something of a weather-holic (coming from the land of lake effect snows and downspouting over the alleghenies- Johnstown, aka the buffalo of PA where it snows from November to May or thereabouts!) It also reminds me thematically of the robin and linda williams song that has the great line in "the wind is howling like Miles Davis gone insane..." You know, come to think of it, I don't have any profound thoughts about this song, so I gotta listen to it a few times more. Which I guess is what we're supposed to do anyway! jpc, just back from austin, which he absolutely LOVED ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:04:42 -0400 From: "Gene Frey" Subject: [RS] They're Playing Our Song (Well, writing about it anyway) Hey you guys, Woo hoo! The Weather as SOTW. What's next, She's in Spain? Anyhow, I do like this song, a lot. Surprised? It's dismissed, I think, because we're so used to Richard writing about 'serious' situations and issues. Well, is there really anything in our personal lives more serious than the relationship we have with our spouse/lover/significant whatever and our family? I think this is more a positive song than a happy song, or at least it tries to be positive. There are a lot of personal feelings that this song touches in me, especially as a father of 17 and 15 year old children, who might even love my wife (Isabel, I know you're lurking...) For all the great songs that Richard has written about specific characters, this is one of the few 'every-person' songs he has out there. Now, if we could just get it onto a set list somehow. The Turning Point on 8/24 sounds like as good a place as any... Gene F. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:10:37 EDT From: Loracevoll@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] The Weather and Paul Simon > From: "Norman A. Johnson" > >>You could ever love another > You've boarded all your windows shut > Against that old nor'easter > But someday soon you'll go back out > And face the changing weather << > > Yeah, I like this verse too. How we wall ourselves in... as in Paul Simon's > "Something so Right" There's also Sting's "Fortress Around Your Heart" -- one of my favorite "walled off" songs...... ...CaroL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:13:21 EDT From: RockinRonD@aol.com Subject: [RS] Shut-Ins-R-Us As an anthem to reclusiveness, nothing beats Greg Brown's "Loneliness House" from the Slant Six Mind CD, an impossibly brilliant record in my view. Sure wish Ron would turn his transcription talents to some of Greg's work. He does play in alot of oddball tunings, by the by. Agree with Lea about John Gorka's newest record, "The Company You Keep" (2 stars). My review of it should be up at Hugh Blumenfeld's Folk Music at About.Com any minute now, along with my somewhat lengthy and unabashedly effusive review of "Drum Hat Buddha" (four stars). RonD ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:17:58 From: "Catherine Wright" Subject: [RS] Hello, and a question First of all, greetings! :-) I'm new to the list, and I'll try not to do anything inappropriate, but please be patient. And, as the subject line indicates, I do indeed have a query: does anyone know how I can obtain a copy of the cd "Scenes From a Blue Divide" ? This has become a slightly obsessive search for me. I did find one online cd vendor that listed it as available. I did a little elfin dance and placed an order. But I got a message in reply letting me know that (despite their site's assertions) the cd was no longer available. The funniest part? They were sorry to let me know about this "Richard Shilling cd". Good Lord. Anyway, helpful hints would be appreciated. Thanks bunches, Catherine _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:07:38 -0400 (EDT) From: vcwills@Princeton.EDU (Vanessa Christina Wills) Subject: Re: [RS] games Did anyone mention double dutch? That was a big one at the elementary schools of my youth. The girls would also make up step routines and do those (sort of like a cross between break dancing and step aerobics (!)). I, of course, was never cool enough to do either . It's hard growing up in the city with two left feet. :-( Now, I can dance, however! I showed them--ha! ;-) - --V ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:07:51 -0400 From: Elwestrand Subject: Re: [RS] SOTW: The Weather Warning - this post is not "Weather" friendly. Just remember I love Richard, I respect him, blah, blah, blah. Just not a big fan of this song! ************************************************************ I know why Richard never plays this song - it's this line: > Here's to all you Moms and Dads Everytime I hear it I cringe. It is just too cornball. Too Hallmark card or car commercial. I doubt he can sing it without feeling actual pain. This I think is the only line in all of Richard's work that I just don't like. And there are several lines, like the line above, which I feel are way below par for Richard. I mean really, "work all day and sleep all night?" This is not his best work and he knows it. Hence - radio silence. I think the sentiment of the song is kind and verse two is the best of the song, but I guess what is really wrong with this song to me is that anyone could have written it. I don't hear it and say, "only Richard could have written that." IMHO x 2! E Who seconds that Fortress Around Your Heart is an amazing song - especially when Sting sings, "let me set the battlements on fire." Swoon. Gosh, I gotta build me some battlements :-)! ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag - ---- On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Rongrittz@aol.com (Rongrittz@aol.com) wrote: > << Have we done "The Weather" for SOTW?? I don't recall it being done > formally... and I've checked the archives. >> > > Ask and ye shall receive. Particularly with today's simply SPECTACULAR > weather here in lovely New Jersey, this song is fitting. > > This song's always seemed like an oddball one for Richard . . . an > honest-to-goodness uptempo happy song. It's generally accepted that it > was a > last-minute composed-in-the-studio song written during the "Reunion > Hill" > recording sessions, and then never played again. Has ANYONE ever heard > him > do it? (I mean, besides Gene?) > > Me, I like it lots, particularly the second verse. I've spent several > years > all locked away, and am finally starting to take the boards off the > windows. > I just may make this song my anthem. > > For what's usually considered a pretty lightweight song, does it touch > anyone > else? > > RG > > THE WEATHER > > Here's to you whose love is new > And all rosy in the summer > Days are long, skies are blue > Nights could not be sweeter > Through the skylight the moon and stars > Will shine like this forever > They're calling for a thunderstorm > But who cares about the weather > > Here's to you who lost a love > You never will recover > Now you can't imagine how > You could ever love another > You've boarded all your windows shut > Against that old nor'easter > But someday soon you'll go back out > And face the changing weather > > Outside the rain is falling down > Soon the sun will come back out > Love is lost, love is found > So never mind the weather > > Here's to all you Moms and Dads > Who hold it all together > Heaven knows you love your kids > You might even love each other > You work all day, you sleep all night > And find an hour for dinner > And time's too short to sit and whine > About all this dreary weather > > Outside the rain is falling down > Soon the sun will come back out > Love is lost, love is found > So never mind the weather ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V3 #200 ***********************************