From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V3 #136 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Tuesday, April 24 2001 Volume 03 : Number 136 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Match This... [RockinRonD@aol.com] [RS] Re: Match This... [Vanessa Wills ] Re: [RS] Match This... ["Susan Koval" ] Re: [RS] Match This... [Vanessa Wills ] [RS] good ol' joan, dave and tracy, a little dar [jcolb ] [RS] re: Neil Diamond ["jeff greggor" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 07:49:27 EDT From: RockinRonD@aol.com Subject: [RS] Match This... I'm not big on jumping on threads either, but Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start The Fire" has to top this list of Namedropper Songs I should think. Now there was a great songwriter who couldn't get out of his own way. RockinRon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:07:04 -0400 From: Vanessa Wills Subject: [RS] Re: Match This... In spite of all academic crises and the typical ol' twenty-year-old's general malaise, I went to see Peter Mulvey at Robin's Nest with my roomie and another friend on Sunday evening. Since I am now taking a few seconds away from writing a paper that was due, oh, some time ago, I'll give the short version review: Hot damn. That boy can play. :-) Peace, Love, and Mischief, Vanessa, who wants to add the Nields' "Superhero Soup" to the list (Gillian Anderson and David Duchovny), and also Duncan Sheik's "That Says it All," which mentions Nick Drake, Mick Jagger, Bob Dylan, John Lennon, Jimi Hendrix, Brian Wilson, and Jimmy Page. Of course, you also have "Brian Wilson," by the Barenaked Ladies. - -- "The ladders of life that we scale merrily/ Move mysteriously around/ So that when you think you're climbing up, man/ In fact you're climbing down." --Nick Cave, "Oh my Lord," _no more shall we part_ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:10:13 -0400 From: "Susan Koval" Subject: Re: [RS] Match This... Ron, I also think Billy Joel is a great songwriter, singer and musician. But what do you mean by "who couldn't get out of his own way." Sue K ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:27:42 -0400 From: Vanessa Wills Subject: Re: [RS] Match This... Ron probably means that he thinks too many of Billy Joel's songs suffer from being songs about Billy Joel. Right? V, who swears she's closing Netscape now, as she ought to be putting words into her paper and not in RonD's mouth. Susan Koval wrote: > Ron, > > I also think Billy Joel is a great songwriter, singer and musician. But what do > you mean by "who couldn't get out of his own way." > > Sue K - -- "The ladders of life that we scale merrily/ Move mysteriously around/ So that when you think you're climbing up, man/ In fact you're climbing down." --Nick Cave, "Oh my Lord," _no more shall we part_ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:26:56 -0400 From: jcolb Subject: [RS] good ol' joan, dave and tracy, a little dar > Is it a coincidence that this is posted the day after Katrin temporarily > departs the list to chase Ellis Paul around a goodly portion of the USA?! > :-) > > Gone from danger indeed! > Just for the record, lemme emphasize- i have no problem with Joan Baez. I have always been in total awe of her vocal talents and many traditional and cover songs she does are, to me, the definitive version. And I think it's pretty cool that she took him out on tour with him , exposing him to audiences that may not have had the chance to hear him otherwise. But c'mon, tell me the textural, and not bad musical intro she has to reunion hill can touch the simple, elegant beauty of the (particularly live) way richard does it... I'll never give in on this one. NEVER, never never. (And that's not a blind bias toward all things rs. I just like his version better better better!) (all this did remind me of a rolling stone review of, I think, her gulf winds album years back. Can't remember a thing about whether they liked it or not, but the reviewer commented about never knowing Joan had such dreamy legs. Ah, the rock journalism I grew up on. Now on to different fields, I saw at barnes and noble last night the latest issue of sing out has an article and a song by Dave and Tracy; as well as lyrics and chords to Dar's We Learned the Sea... (although I myself would look for this on the rg site first were I looking for it, cause it's just updated to dar's own alternate tuning version, no? I believe Sing Out has the standard tuning version but I really just took a quick look.) But I did buy the new acoustic guitar with Johnny Cash on it. (The irony of which was not lost on me-like steve goodman once said, there are songwriters and bangers and then there are musicians- but hey, I still like the guy a lot!) jpc in sc pa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:54:18 -0400 From: jcolb Subject: [RS] well, to me it's sort of like calling the moon > it also is said.. that certain songs on Gone from Danger were written by > richard for JOAN.. what a piece of royalty check.. it seems that songsyou > all ahve mentioned were actually.. hers to start..with... To me, being the first to record a song, enjoy commercial success with it, or have it written for you... still does not necesarily mean that arrangement or performance is going to be my (key word there, "my") favorite version of it. Doesn't mean it doesn't have merit or is bad, just a reflection of my personal tastes, which often lean toward the simple and unadorned. I am quite often a bigger fan of the songwriter's version of a song- and townes van zandt , steve goodman and eric bogle come immediately to mind, none of them were "good" singers technically but geez louise, gimme their solo acoustic versions of most of their stuff any day. And since I'm on a roll, I gotta say, I like the rs version of calling the moon better. I know, it's blasphemy to some, but as alice peacock says, i do, i do i do... (and for the record, I don't have a problem with dar either... got two discs within a foot of me here!) jpc, ducking for cover in state college pa ------------------------------ Date: 24 Apr 2001 14:36 GMT From: Katrin.Uhl@t-online.de Subject: Re: [RS] RE: Joan and name dropping mix tape Well, well, just when you thought you were safe from me ;) - here I am checking in frm wonderfuly warm Texas and what do I have to see? you guys beating up Joani again... > Jim wrote about Joan covering Reunion Hill> But I > > wasn't that enamored of her version of reunion hill; I really > > feel she lost the > > beauty of the way rs performs it... and maybe it didn't exist at > > the time he > > wrote it for her, but to not have that guitar intro to reunion > > hill is a CRIME, > > I say, a CRIME!) well, to each his own and I will admit there are songs joan covers where I like the original better, so other than the Crime statement, I can live with that :) > > Is it a coincidence that this is posted the day after Katrin temporarily > departs the list to chase Ellis Paul around a goodly portion of the USA?! > :-) > > Gone from danger indeed! > > Dave. honey, i ain't chasin' nobody, am on my very best behaivour. you should know that :) but good thing I have my spies here who keep an eye on the email lists while Im gone and tell me I have to come out from the shadows and fight for Joan when needed :) thanks Tom, BTW! Glad to know there are people to count on in times of trouble :) Alright, I need to go look for the sun now ... now you guys better behave while I'm gone, I can't be around all the time checking on you ;) music in the air guys (Vance tonight, no Ellis) Katrin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 10:47:56 EDT From: Pfleary@aol.com Subject: [RS] "name" song Okay the people who inspired this song may not be mentioned by name, but I couldn't let this thread pass by without any mention of Don Mclean's "American Pie." If this were the dar-list, a post would follow mine saying something like, "isn't that a movie not a song?" ;-) Peter ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:04:33 EDT From: SMOKEY596@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] RE: Joan and name dropping mix tape Katrin!! Tell Bill and Jennifer and Karen and Becky and anyone else you see out there that I said "hi"! And have fun seeing Vance tonight, and chasing Ellis Paul....wasn't that a movie? :-) SMOKEY ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:37:37 EDT From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] "name" song >> I couldn't let this thread pass by without any mention of Don Mclean's "American Pie." If this were the dar-list, a post would follow mine saying something like, "isn't that a movie not a song?" << TOO funny. It's like when the Dar-list gets its periodic question regarding the song "Alleluia," the question: "Who are Ron and Nancy?" Cracks me the hell up. RG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:59:47 -0700 From: Lee Wessman Subject: [RS] Neil Diamond? Did I really see Neil Diamond quoted on the Shindell list? What's next? Cher? - -lee (And there's a John Hiatt song that mentions "playing bass for Sonny and Cher.") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:30:02 From: "jeff greggor" Subject: [RS] re: Neil Diamond "Did I really see Neil Diamond quoted on the Shindell list? What's next? Cher?" As the Dave & Tracy fans here know, they do a great version of "Solitary Man", so let's not be so hasty to goof on Neil. Cher is another question entirely! Jeff _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V3 #136 ***********************************