From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V3 #31 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Saturday, February 3 2001 Volume 03 : Number 031 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [RS] The Point & Outpost ["Susan Koval" ] Re: [RS] The Point & Outpost [Rongrittz@aol.com] [RS] the angels of montclair ["sharon g" ] [RS] New Carter/Grammer list. [Rongrittz@aol.com] [RS] Six more weeks of winter ["Gene Frey" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 11:49:15 -0500 From: "Susan Koval" Subject: Re: [RS] The Point & Outpost Vanessa wrote: "I haven't seen Richard since July, at FRFF, if you can believe it. Insanity, pure insanity, this is." I hadn't seen Richard since about last April, at the Appel Farm venue. I agree, too long! I saw him at the Outpost in the Burbs show in Montclair last night, and really enjoyed the show (and I thought he looked great with that short haircut!) Two of my favorites in one show - James Keelaghan and Richard! (I wish James' set was longer and Lucy's shorter...) To those who were wondering, James did "Cold Missouri Waters." I think his version sounds like Richard's now - I also thought that the last time I saw him at the Minstrel in NJ last fall. Back then he told me he liked Richard's version better than his own. James did a great set - I wish it was longer! Lucy was next. Richard came out for a few numbers with her. Richard closed the show, and I thought he was excellent. He had Rad with him, and Greg Anderson? on various instruments, and a woman playing the violin, whose name I don't recall. The show was being recorded for the Live album, so I thought that was pretty cool! And when he came back for an encore, they did Fleur -de Lis again, due to a technical problem with the first time. I actually thought it sounded even better the second time around! He then did "Love Hurts" with Lucy to close the show. Rad's piano playing was limited as they couldn't really get it in tune, but he played the accordion on quite a few songs. Richard seemed to be having a good time, his voice sounded terrific, and I LOVE his guitar playing! A great show to be at! Sue K ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 12:40:24 EST From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] The Point & Outpost >> Richard closed the show, and I thought he was excellent. He had Rad with him, and Greg Anderson? on various instruments, and a woman playing the violin, whose name I don't recall. << Yes, the guy was indeed Greg Anderson on about a million different stringed instruments, and the violinist was Lisa Gutkin, who'll be a familiar name to old fans of the Fast Folk Musical Revue. They're both in an innovative Celtic group called Whirligig (www.whirligig.org). I spoke to her afterwards, and she said that she hadn't played alongside Richard in nine years, that he'd only asked her the night before to play at this gig, and that the only songs she was really familiar with were "Are You Happy Now" and "On a Sea of Fleur-de-Lis." She said she was a little nervous, knowing that they were being recorded, but she did a great job. >> The show was being recorded for the Live album, so I thought that was pretty cool! And when he came back for an encore, they did Fleur -de Lis again, due to a technical problem with the first time. I actually thought it sounded even better the second time around! << So did Richard, except for the fact that he blew a line on the second take. But Lisa's solo was MUCH better the second time around, so Richard said that through a little production magic, they should be able to splice the line from the first take into the final recording. >> He then did "Love Hurts" with Lucy to close the show. Rad's piano playing was limited as they couldn't really get it in tune, but he played the accordion on quite a few songs. << And actually, he was somewhat more restrained than I've seen him before, and having to play the accordian rather than the piano made "Mary Magdalene" (which Richard sang with Lucy on harmony) pretty magical. The only other cover he did, BTW, was "Sonora's Death Row," and there were no "new" songs. I didn't write down the set list in order, but as I recall it, in addition to the songs already mentioned, he did: Arrowhead Wisteria Confession Transit Fishing A Summer Wind, A Cotton Dress Are You Happy Now The Next Best Western After the show, I had the chance to discuss the live CD with Richard, and he said that it will probably be a 15 or 16 song single-disc release, and that he'll do some different songs at the Emelin, because he'll have the full band (including John Putnam and Lincoln Schleiffer) with him. We talked about including some "obscure" stuff, and he said that he'd *definitely* include "Nora" as a solo piece, among other solo songs he'll include. I asked if he might consider "The Courier," and he seemed intrigued on how that might sound in a band setting, so I'm psyched about that. All in all, a pretty good show. During James Keelaghan's performance of "Cold Missouri Waters," you could've heard a pin drop in the place, and the applause never seemed to end. A nice statement for someone who I thought might have a problem living up to the Cry Cry Cry version with which most of the audience was no doubt more familiar. Finally, they announced some great upcoming shows at the Outpost, including Cheryl Wheeler on March 16, and some obscure couple from Portland, Something Carter and Something Grammer, on March 30. RG, tickets in hand. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 18:01:23 From: "sharon g" Subject: [RS] the angels of montclair .. my opinion was that richard was out preformed last night maybe it was LIVE record nerves.. lucy was hyped and she played longer.. i guess it was decided by them... she sang new songs and told different stories he new music.. is good and she had jon herrington with her.. her own voice bounced backand she sounded like she was singing with her.. self... she asked richard to join her on CRYCRYCRY songs that the audience wanted to hear.. and for the live record... she laid some harmony tracks that are a gift to Richard.. all his standards.. now will sound a little better with lucy on harmony.. and no one sings a duet with him the encore was LOVE Hurts... richards haircut is groovy . it makes him look younger.. and the fiddle was a great touch... it was a long night and we were all wired and tired and wiped.. but this was a show for the books... one of the top ten of my ten year nights.. sharon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 16:27:10 EST From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: [RS] New Carter/Grammer list. Just so the RS list doesn't turn into the Dave Carter & Tracy Grammer list any more than it already has (but mostly because D/T deserve their own home), one's been started for our favorite duo over on Yahoo groups. Just go here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Dave-and-Tracy It's a pretty simple sign-up process. Hopefully, with a new CD ("Drum Hat Buddha") coming out soon, and with Dave being as prolific a writer as he is, there'll be plenty to talk about. Dave and Tracy themselves are also pretty psyched about the list, and Tracy has indicated that she and Dave may even participate as time allows, so that should be a lot of fun. If you know of any individuals who might like to join, or any other lists on which you think this message might be appropriate (without it seeming like spamming, of course), please let them know. Anyway, hope to see you there. RG "And it's burning where he kissed her . . . " ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 17:16:12 -0500 From: "Gene Frey" Subject: [RS] Six more weeks of winter Hey you guys, John Clary wrote: >>Looks like that fat rodent Phil saw his shadow this morning. Does that mean Gene gets his wish? Would be cool considering the tape is rolling this evening for that live CD... << No, John, there were no real surprises during the show last night, but thanks for asking. It was a good show, but almost seemed cleaned up a bit for the recording. It may have been 'nerves,' or maybe a bit of a play-it-safe attitude. Very good, but no chances or rough edges either. By the way, six more weeks of winter puts us to March 16 - the first Emelin date. Now, as some (Susan) may tell you, I'm no believer in anything spiritual, but that is just WAY too coincidental for me. Ron G. said that during his discussion with Richard >>We talked about including some "obscure" stuff << and I can't think of anything in his repertoire that may, at this point, be more obscure than 'The Weather.' O.K., I'm grasping at straws here. If he doesn't do it at the Emelin I'm going to post my 'Weather' song parody, and THEN he'll be sorry. As far as Lucy goes, I know this is just a result of going to see her so often, but when she got about halfway through the Sherman Alexie story I started mouthing the words along with her. In any case, she remains, to me, far better as an interpreter of others' songs than a songwriter. Her version of 'More Than This,' the Brian Ferry song earlier covered by the post-Natalie 10,000 Maniacs, was my highlight of her set. I agree with Sharon that her vocals definitely dress up a lot of Richard's songs, and I hope they make the final cut on his live album. Gene F. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V3 #31 **********************************