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shindell-list-digest    Saturday, January 20 2001    Volume 03 : Number 017



                               Today's Subjects:
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  Re: [RS] Calif Ticket Prices & Live Album  [j a clary <drewclary@juno.com>]
  Re: [RS] Ticket prices and live album  [patrick t power <ptpower@juno.com>]
  Re: [RS] Live Album                    [patrick t power <ptpower@juno.com>]
  Re: [RS] Live Album                  ["REBECCA Lay" <rlay@email.smith.edu>]
  Re: [RS] Live Album                    [patrick t power <ptpower@juno.com>]
  RE: [RS] Live Album                   [Katrin.Uhl@t-online.de (Katrin Uhl)]
  Re: [RS] Live Album                                     [Rongrittz@aol.com]
  [RS] Richard Live                                      [RockinRonD@aol.com]
  Re: [RS] Richard Live                ["REBECCA Lay" <rlay@email.smith.edu>]
  [RS] ticket prices                                       [Sdgold60@aol.com]

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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 12:34:42 -0800
From: j a clary <drewclary@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [RS] Calif Ticket Prices & Live Album

>> As to the price - as Richard's manager, y'all should know that I
actively try to get Richard as much money as seems reasonably possible
for shows, and personally, I think a Richard Shindell concert should cost
about $17-20, and must say that I'm kind of surprised that this would be
thought excessive. In fact, when I first read John's note, I thought he
was commenting on how _reasonable_ the tickets were (as compared to
things like "shed" shows!). It just shows how different people's
perceptions are! <<

Hi Charlie.  About a post later I explained my perspective a little more.
 I would gladly pay more to see Richard, but compared to what I HAVE been
paying to see him, it caused sticker shock is all.  Thanks for the math
lesson though.  I wish Richard could get more money too.  The truly great
artisans should, imo.  I have been under the impression for a long time
that tours don't genrate much revenue and aren't intended to do so.  I
thought you toured to promote a record and that record sales made the
real money.  Obviously Richard has a sweeter record deal than most.  And
I realize it costs a little more to get Richard to the States these
days...

j a c

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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 15:17:13 -0500
From: patrick t power <ptpower@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [RS] Ticket prices and live album

Newcomer Sue (welcome!!) wrote:

<<Personally, I would have been happy to pay at least twice that much>>

Charlie . . . can you help her out with this?

Pat

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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 15:30:36 -0500
From: patrick t power <ptpower@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [RS] Live Album

Ron suggested:

<<I'd hope that it would feature a mix of band and solo performances.>>

I agree with this. While seeing him in person without back-up is a
wonderful experience, there's a lot to be said for a fuller sound on
recordings. 

<<I have mixed feelings about whether I'd like Lucy and/or Dar to make an
appearance, but I'm guessing that's a political hot-potato that I don't
wanna touch.>>

Potatoes not withstanding, I think that the addition of either or both of
them performing with Richard could only help. Listening to _Sparrows
Point_ the other day, I was revelling in the work that Lucy did on that
disc. My favorite version of "Mary Magdelen" remains the _Che Lives_
version (albeit with Dar as lead vocalist). I think that Dar's and
Richard's voices work extremely well together.

I would really hope that more collaboration between these three wouldn't
come down to tubers!

Oh -- and speaking of Dar . . . she'll be doing a solo show in East
Lansing, Michigan on March 16, presented by the Ten Pound Fiddle
Coffeehouse. With this concert, the Fiddle will have completed the
CryCryCry triumvirate, having had Richard (twice) and Lucy grace our
stage over the last several years!

Details can be found at www.tenpoundfiddle.org or by e-mailing me.

Pat

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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 15:34:55 -0500
From: "REBECCA Lay" <rlay@email.smith.edu>
Subject: Re: [RS] Live Album

This list is great, and I'd also like to hear The Weather (if a recording exists! ;) and Sing me Back Home.

Any idea when this will be available?

I'm so excited!
- --Rebecca

>>> jgilson@javanet.com 01/20/01 11:48 AM >>>
Charlie wrote:

>Also... I'd love to hear people's thoughts on what songs from SpPt, BD and
>RH we should try to get on the live album (all performance variables being
>the same). The plan on the live album is to highlight songs from RS's
>"earlier" (i.e. pre-ownership of his masters) catalog -- that would mean the
>first three albums.

Memory of You, You Again, The Courier, Sparrow's Point, Fleur de Lis, Nora, 
Summer Wind, Lazy, Ascend, Blue Divide, Next Best Western, May, Iron Gate.

jeff.

- --
Defied I'm tongue tied when I try to explain how I

feel so foreign all blushed with emotion
and rough terminology laced up with language
o lest you forget me               --Susan McKeown
- --
(an index of free radical activity)
      http://www.onefreeradical.com/Journal/

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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 15:45:03 -0500
From: patrick t power <ptpower@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [RS] Live Album

Rebecca laid it out:

<<I'd also like to hear The Weather (if a recording exists!).>>

Rebecca . . . meet Gene. Gene . . . meet Rebecca.

Heh-heh!

Pat

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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 22:08:44 +0100
From: Katrin.Uhl@t-online.de (Katrin Uhl)
Subject: RE: [RS] Live Album

RonG wrote:
, but this CD will
> obviously have
> to work harder to an audience bigger and wider than just me.  (Heck, just
> about anyone on the planet is bigger and wider than me.)

I was thinking the same thing, Ron. Well, not the bigger and wider part :)
I went through the first three albums and came up with "Richard best of
songs that need to be on the album for that reason", and my personal
wish list, with some overlaps.
Classics that need to be on there, IMHO: AYHN (I could do without that one,
too), Next Best Western, Reunion Hill, Mary (with Lucy), Nora (with Lucy),
Fishing, Kenworth, and I think The Courier falls into that category, too.
Additions I'd love to hear: Howling at the trouble (I know, that's
unlikely),
May, you again.
I think at least one song from SNP would be a good thing, in terms of
continuity. Confession, as a "wider audience"-choice, Transit would be
my own favorite though. Or waiting for the storm, again with Lucy.

>
> It would also be great if the CD were to include at least one song we've
> never heard before.

that's a great idea.
>
  I have mixed feelings about whether I'd like Lucy
> and/or Dar
> to make an appearance, but I'm guessing that's a political
> hot-potato that I
> don't wanna touch.

Lucy. Definitely Lucy. I don't care about political hot-potatos,
I want Lucy's wonderful harmonies :-)

How long do we have to wait until we can buy that album? :-)

Katrin


- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
i do it for the joy it brings
because i'm a joyful girl
because the world owes me nothing
and we owe each other the world

                       ani difranco

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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:55:20 EST
From: Rongrittz@aol.com
Subject: Re: [RS] Live Album

<< How long do we have to wait until we can buy that album? >>

Well, from what I've heard, it's being recorded at the two Emelin Theater 
shows in Mamaroneck on March 16/17, so I'm betting it wouldn't come out 
before late Summer.

BTW, Charlie, Musi-Cal only has these shows listed if you search "Richard 
Shindell Band" and doesn't show up on a "Richard Shindell"-only search, so 
someone (Michaela?) might want to fix that.

RG

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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 17:39:06 EST
From: RockinRonD@aol.com
Subject: [RS] Richard Live

  Personally, for the Live Album, I'd love it to include a version of Reunion 
Hill where it's just Richard, his voice, and his guitar--the slower, more 
dramatic version that he played so magnificently at the Bottom Line early 
last year.  In fact, there's a whole bunch of songs from the RH record that 
I'd like to hear on a Live Album provided it's just Richard and his guitar 
sans all that Nashville Sound stuff.  And maybe a new original song none of 
us --and I mean none of us --has ever heard.
  I want this album already.

  RonD

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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 18:15:16 -0500
From: "REBECCA Lay" <rlay@email.smith.edu>
Subject: Re: [RS] Richard Live

Yes!  I totally agree about the slower version of Reunion Hill.  And I also want to add something about AYHN--I do get sick of this song, but i *loved* the full-band version I heard last April at the Iron Horse.  It sounded different enough from the original SP version that I could definitely listen to it a few more times.

- --Rebecca
(soon to be snowed in--yippee!)

>>> RockinRonD@aol.com 01/20/01 17:42 PM >>>
  Personally, for the Live Album, I'd love it to include a version of Reunion 
Hill where it's just Richard, his voice, and his guitar--the slower, more 
dramatic version that he played so magnificently at the Bottom Line early 
last year.  In fact, there's a whole bunch of songs from the RH record that 
I'd like to hear on a Live Album provided it's just Richard and his guitar 
sans all that Nashville Sound stuff.  And maybe a new original song none of 
us --and I mean none of us --has ever heard.
  I want this album already.

  RonD

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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 20:10:40 EST
From: Sdgold60@aol.com
Subject: [RS] ticket prices

the emerlin shows... the ones where the live taping will occur
are 23 dollars each...if you need to add the whitestone at $7.00
the thru way at 1.00 (one way).. gas ... food maybe.. and it adds up 
for those who travel to shows to...though i have never minded spending
money or traveling distances for any artist

i think richard needs a female backing vocals if he is going to 
sing any parsons tune... i think montclair is a preview and a rehersal
let lucy be his surprise voices.. live... no one sings with the men better...

sharon

friday night im going nowhere
all the lights are turning green to red
turning over tv stations
situations running through my head
saturday im running wild
with all the lights turning red to green
moving through the crowds im pushing 
chemicals are running through my bloodstream
babylon

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