From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V2 #354 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Saturday, December 2 2000 Volume 02 : Number 354 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [RS] Re: for Carol (so off topic) [Loracevoll@aol.com] Re: [RS] More lines for the ages [Loracevoll@aol.com] Re: [RS] Speaking of breathtaking . . . [Lisa Davis & family ] Re: Re: [RS] Ron's top 5 [patrick t power ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 22:27:16 EST From: Loracevoll@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] Re: for Carol (so off topic) In a message dated 12/01/2000 4:59:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, Tom926@aol.com writes: > I have been listening > to "Rubber Soul" and "Revolver" much lately. How is the '1' cd? Tom, WOW, you love 'Fernando' too??????? I must say I'm so proud that my daughter can now hear re-cycled "ABBA" on Radio Disney as covered by the latest Swedish Pop tidal wave, "The A-Teens". But really how can anyone do ABBA justice, Chicatita?? I think the new '1' CD kicks butt. But then I'm comparing a popping LP to a CD and I'm not a tech-head. It's just really cool to hear their sound evolve all on one album. From "Love Me Do" to "The Long and Winding Road". The only song I really miss is "Norwegian Wood". I guess it never hit #1 in the states. ......Carol ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 22:34:38 EST From: Loracevoll@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] More lines for the ages In a message dated 12/01/2000 7:08:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, njohnson@ent.umass.edu writes: > (2) From my favorite Richard song "Nora", the reconcilation of the narrator > and Nora's unnamed husband is a great scence: > > "There we raised the first, and the next, > and the third glass to you > Hunched on our barstools > Calling our truce > By your name > And Nora there is no sin" A great song, Norman.... I was thinking the other day that Nora, Summer Wind & possibly Mary Magdalene (sp?) make three Richard songs about adultry. I wonder if that's significant or just really a part of our human nature to long for what we don't have... Thoughts, Hobson??? .....Carol ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 23:44:00 -0500 From: Lisa Davis & family Subject: Re: [RS] Speaking of breathtaking . . . > I was thinking *EXACTLY* the same thing today when I was listening to > "Reunion Hill". The way he sings her name as the end note makes my hair > stand up everytime I hear it. > > .....Carol Not to mention, what lung-power! I'm just so impressed he can hold the note so long! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 02:10:31 -0500 From: patrick t power Subject: Re: [RS] More lines for the ages Also from Nora: "And I might have guessed You'd press a rose in the pages Where Abelard confesses His love and his pain To her lips" Pat ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 02:34:56 -0500 From: patrick t power Subject: Re: Re: [RS] Ron's top 5 Elwestrand wrote: <> You know, I really, really like Kris Delmhorst. I may not have ever seen a person who *so* enjoys performing (or at least appears to). To say that I *dismissed* Kris might be going a bit too far, but then again perhaps *I* didn't go far enough in explaining myself. Perhaps it would be best for me to have said that Kris' songs don't grab me like Richard's or Dar's do -- in fact, they don't grab me like a *lot* of other folks' songs do. Maybe it's unfair to hold her up to the same interpretive light bulb as I do Dar and Richard, but I have always been most appreciative of songwriters who affect me emotionally *and* intellectually, as well as viscerally. I think Kris is a strong songwriter but her writing isn't yet to the level (in my opinion, of course) that takes my breath away. Similarly, the tape I have of Dar's first two self-released tapes don't move me at *all* the way that songs from "The Honesty Room" and beyond do. Her writing hasn't quite reached that level of maturity. Would I recommend people to buy her CD? Absolutely! Is it one of my favorite CDs from the last year? Probably not -- although there's lots of good stuff on it. She's still developing as a songwriter and I *grant* her that. Of all the artists that I think have an opportunity to break out, she's one of them. <<[Dar and Richard] are sooooo different. Why do we need one to be better than another? It is like saying Golden Retrievers are better looking dogs than German Shepherds>> This is a very valid point. And I didn't really mean to *rate* one performer agains another so much as I meant to comment that I didn't think that Kris has developed as a songwriter (yet!) the way Dar and Richard have. To stretch (or twist?) your analogy somewhat, it's like comparing a single-A baseball player with a veteran major leaguer. A quote from "The Natural" comes to mind -- one that is echoed a number of times throughout the film (paraphrased): "You've got talent, kid, but it ain't enough." Pat ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V2 #354 ***********************************