From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V2 #335 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Monday, November 20 2000 Volume 02 : Number 335 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Ga Ga Over Gerber [RockinRonD@aol.com] Re: [RS] Favorite Shindell CD ["Susan Koval" ] Re: [RS] Favorite Shindell CD [Rongrittz@aol.com] [RS] You've never felt "Lazy?" ["Clary, John (CLRY)" ] Re: [RS] Favorite Shindell CD [Katrin.Uhl@t-online.de] Re: [RS] Favorite Shindell CD [Rongrittz@aol.com] [RS] Darkness, Darkness ["Young/Hunter Mgt." ] RE: [RS] Favorite Shindell CD ["Dupas, Edward (E.M.)" ] RE: [RS] Favorite Shindell CD [Rongrittz@aol.com] [RS] vote for SNP [Lee Wessman ] RE: [RS] Favorite Shindell CD ["Dupas, Edward (E.M.)" ] RE: [RS] Favorite Shindell CD [Katrin.Uhl@t-online.de (Katrin Uhl)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:52:25 EST From: RockinRonD@aol.com Subject: [RS] Ga Ga Over Gerber Just wanted to say that last Saturday night Karen Almquist played at the Hard Luck Cafe in Huntington, Long Island and she was just fantastic--what a treat for $5. I mention this because Karen's superb CD, "Tracking Of Time" was produced by Nina Gerber, whose guitar playing (as well as other instruments) on the record is just great. I would recommend Karen's record to anyone--she plays a mean bottleneck slide herself as well as cool finger picking style on guitar--especially to those on the lucy List who've been talking up the shows where Lucy is accompanied by Nina on Strat and mandolin. Ron ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:29:28 -0500 From: "Susan Koval" Subject: Re: [RS] Favorite Shindell CD Somewhere Near Paterson! I LOVE this album. (Definitely one of my "defaults...") I thought this was a great album from the first time I heard it. Some of my favorite things are the fingerpicking riff (I'm sure that's the wrong term) on You Stay Here, the dual vocal rounds by Richard at the end of Confession, and of course TRANSIT! My least favorite tunes initially were Your Love Will Follow Me and Calling the Moon, although the latter has definitely grown on me. (I've never heard Dar's version.) Reunion Hill took me a few listens before I really started to enjoy it. Initially I thought some of the vocals were a bit overwhelmed by the instruments, but I don't really think that anymore. At the Dave Carter/Tracy Grammer concert in Princeton on Friday, Dave commented on what a great songwriter Richard is, and that Richard is one of his favorites. That brought some applause from us Richard fans in the audience! Sue K ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:07:42 EST From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] Favorite Shindell CD >> At the Dave Carter/Tracy Grammer concert in Princeton on Friday, Dave commented on what a great songwriter Richard is, and that Richard is one of his favorites. That brought some applause from us Richard fans in the audience! << BTW, it was a pretty wonderful show. Dave and Tracy (sporting a new, short haircut -- Tracy, that is) played some songs I'd never heard: "The Gentle Arms of Eden" (simply wonderful), "Texas Underground" (simply hysterical), "Lord of the Buffalo" (which Dave said is about to be recorded by one of my favorites, Joan Baez) and a Tracy tour-de-force called "I Go Like the Raven." They also did a stunning version of Townes Van Zandt's "Panco and Lefty." They sounded great . . . Dave was playing his CFox (which had been in the shop when I saw him at the Bottom Line), and Tracy was her usual incredible multi-instrumental self, on CFox guitar, mandolin, violin, and did a killer version of "The Mountain." I like them lots. RG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:24:52 -0800 From: "Clary, John (CLRY)" Subject: [RS] You've never felt "Lazy?" >> Blue Divide, to me, has the most songs that I will skip almost every time (Lazy... << I read this and got kinda sad. You might not like the bossa nova beat and the chord voicings might lack Richard's typical melancholia, but if you've ever been in love like this, you can't help but love this song. It's not cloaked in the mystery of "Summer Wind's" clandestine, forbidden rendezvous (that I also identify with), but it reminds me how sometimes a lazy day making love is more important than any responsibility could ever be. I think I'm gonna call in Lazy a few times this week. j a c ------------------------------ Date: 20 Nov 2000 15:36 GMT From: Katrin.Uhl@t-online.de Subject: Re: [RS] Favorite Shindell CD Ron said: > "Lord of the Buffalo" (which Dave said is about to be recorded by one of my > favorites, Joan Baez) oh, I sympathize with you. It must have really hurt to hear that :-) Talking about Ron's favorite folk singer: I heard that she started performing Dar's After All on her recent tour. Now that I would have liked to hear!!! Katrin :) :) :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:05:04 EST From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] Favorite Shindell CD >> It must have really hurt to hear that :-) Talking about Ron's favorite folk singer: I heard that she started performing Dar's After All on her recent tour. Now that I would have liked to hear!!! << Yeah, I winced. But not nearly as much as I winced when Dave said that they'd be opening for Joan on her next tour. Hmmmm. Guess I can always just stay for their opening set. ;-) RG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:28:44 -0400 From: "Young/Hunter Mgt." Subject: [RS] Darkness, Darkness Ron - I have heard many covers of "Darkness Darkness" as well as the original, and the problem with the JC Young original is that you can't tell _what_ he's singing, and there's no lyric sheet. Thus the wide variant. In fact, before RS recorded it, I remember sitting with him in my office in Chesterfield playing all the versions _I_ owned, trying to figure out the lyric. My favorite cover of DD has always been Ian Matthews' from GO FOR BROKE. Great swirling moog synthesizer. Go seventies! - - Charlie > A little help please. I've been working on the transcription to "Darkness, > Darkness" from the "Reunion Hill" CD, but I'm having problems with the lyrics > in one particular line. > > The liner notes say "Fill the emptiness of right now" > I have a tape on which Richard sings "Fill the emptiness inside" > I checked the web, and one site says "Fill the emptiness of fright" > Another site says "Fill the emptiness with bright" > > Does anyone have the original Jesse Colin Young version who can tell me for > sure? > > Thanks. > > BTW, I've put up a bunch of new transcriptions: "Arrowhead," "Howling at the > Trouble," "Darkness, Darkness" and "I'll Be Here in the Morning" as well as > some new Dar stuff: "I Love I Love," "Flinty Kind of Woman," "Family" and > "Bought and Sold." > > RG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:01:38 -0500 From: "Dupas, Edward (E.M.)" Subject: RE: [RS] Favorite Shindell CD <> Really? That songs seems a little too personal to me to be sung by anyone but Dar. Just one man's opinion though. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:45:45 EST From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: RE: [RS] Favorite Shindell CD >> Really? That songs seems a little too personal to me to be sung by anyone but Dar. << Hell, she sang "February", too, so go figure. RG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:41:28 -0800 From: Lee Wessman Subject: [RS] vote for SNP After careful deliberation, I'm tossing my vote in with SNP. I long sort of assumed Sparrow's was my favorite. But when I sat with them side by side, I decided his newest work is his most balanced, and in some ways his most innovative. Sparrow's Point has a nice-but-comparatively-weak song, "Castaway," near the top, which slows it down. The top end of SNP builds incredibly through the first seven songs before you come to its weakest links, "The Grocer's Broom" and the instrumental (both of which I like quite a bit, actually.) On Sparrow's, for me, "Howling at the Trouble" is the weak link toward the end of the album, and actually, now that I think about it, it is less a weakness than "Broom" and "Merritt" ... but then again, "By Now" is creepy, and "Transit" redeems any weakness and ... and ... and... Oh, crap, I think I just punched both holes and invalidated my ballot. lee ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:06:57 -0500 From: "Dupas, Edward (E.M.)" Subject: RE: [RS] Favorite Shindell CD <> Yeah, but I think we've all shivered through February once or twice, yes, even me. It is with this in mind that in the quiet darkness of an empty house you may hear that very song flowing from my guitar softly...lest anyone hear me and question my manliness. However, "After All" seems autobiographical to me...like it is so openly accessible that it is almost inaccessible in spite of itself. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 20:15:33 +0100 From: Katrin.Uhl@t-online.de (Katrin Uhl) Subject: RE: [RS] Favorite Shindell CD Ed said: > < recent tour.>> > > Really? That songs seems a little too personal to me to be sung by anyone > but Dar. Just one man's opinion though. I had the exact same reaction when I was told she sang that particular song. Not that I think she wouldn't do a good job with it, but I just can't picture anybody but Dar sing it. (I have played it myself occasionally, but it just doesn't feel right). My pick for a Joan-TGW-cover would have been I had no right. Ron moaned: > Yeah, I winced. But not nearly as much as I winced when Dave said that > they'd be opening for Joan on her next tour. Hmmmm. Guess I can always just > stay for their opening set. Nono, it's all or nothing dear friend! :) First dates of her next tour (starting late January) have been announced. Next year will be the "convert Ron into a Joan-fan"-year, I'll make it my personal mission :) Katrin, grinning :) ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V2 #335 ***********************************