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shindell-list-digest   Thursday, September 28 2000   Volume 02 : Number 279



                               Today's Subjects:
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  RE: [RS] transitory ramblings   ["Dupas, Edward (E.M.)" <edupas2@ford.com>]
  [RS] oh my gosh, this is so cool!                  [Katrin.Uhl@t-online.de]
  RE: [RS] Transit                  ["Clary, John (CLRY)" <CLRY@chevron.com>]
  [RS] The Transit Waltz            ["Clary, John (CLRY)" <CLRY@chevron.com>]
  [RS] Transit's start         ["Norman A. Johnson" <njohnson@ent.umass.edu>]
  RE: [RS] Re: Troubled by Transit  ["Dupas, Edward (E.M.)" <edupas2@ford.co]
  Re: [RS] The Transit Waltz             [patrick t power <ptpower@juno.com>]
  [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V2 #271     [Paul DePasquale <nypdp@rcn.com>]
  [RS] Transit inside the snake     ["Sally Green" <sallyagreen@hotmail.com>]

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:23:41 -0400
From: "Dupas, Edward (E.M.)" <edupas2@ford.com>
Subject: RE: [RS] transitory ramblings

<<The only person I see achieving grace in the song is Sister Maria. 
Everybody else has just got their fingers crossed.>>

Why?  Because she is a nun, because she can change a tire, or because she
gives her time at the prison?  That is all we know about her, she could have
a dark-side.  I have it from a good source that Sister Maria isn't really a
"sister" if you know what I mean.  Maybe that is why she made such quick
work of that tire change.

 

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Date: 28 Sep 2000 14:10 GMT
From: Katrin.Uhl@t-online.de
Subject: [RS] oh my gosh, this is so cool!

so I'm being a bad kid for a moment and am using my work computer to 
check into my home mail account, but this is too cool to wait until I get 
home for the weekend and to my home computer: so I'm at work and 
thought, geez, why not tune into WUMB for a minute just to see what's on, now 
that I learned that listening to music is okay at my new job and am 
online all the time anyway. And who else is on but Richard singin AYHN. Last 
verse unfortunately, but wow, it sure was cool to hear a familiar voice 
on a 1000s of miles away-radio station here on this grey and cold 
fall-day here in Germany's North. Made my afternoon! (okay, this wasn't really 
any spectacular news but I was happy now and had to share :-)  )

back to work,

Katrin
 

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:29:25 -0500
From: "Clary, John (CLRY)" <CLRY@chevron.com>
Subject: RE: [RS] Transit

Norman paraphrased:
>>"The trouble with 'Transit' is we think too much" <<

Nah, I just made it up, can't you tell?  Still, I find Transition
everywhere.

j a c

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:03:58 -0700
From: "Clary, John (CLRY)" <CLRY@chevron.com>
Subject: [RS] The Transit Waltz

>> I was one of the lucky ones to hear "Transit Interruptus" last year. The
mood of the song was also very different. <<

Norman, was this a Falcon Ridge workshop version?   While I like the
Campbelled-up version on SNP (it kinda gives me the same feeling as the
instrumental reprise of Tom's Diner on Solitude Standing...ya know that
creepy credit music...from a black and white suspense/horror film with a
sick twist ending...that kinda kinda music).

I must say that when Richard plays it solo, it's better to me.  He closed
all the CA shows with it, but my favorite was in Sebastopol with the
Sheriff's siren outside the church lending to the mood of the traffic...it
was almost comical.  "The merge from the turnpike was murder....<siren>
<chuckle> <pause> <chuckle> <oh yeah I was singing here> but it's never a
cinch <audience laughs>  Every character tugged at me a little more.
Richard's face did not portray any of them as monsters or skipping through
churchy-legal loopholes.  He was just spinning a yarn, showing a snap shot
if you will, of a day in the life of some folks in New Jersey.  Not trying
to explain it, just telling what Friday night was like that night.

To say the song bothers me is too strong.  It causes me to ponder things.
It has a great beat and you can waltz to it.  If Larry did an instrumental
with some more Gypsy seasoning, fiddling the melody perhaps, the music could
stand on it's own.  It's so unlike anything else Richard has recorded.  I
hope he writes more music like this.  Reminds me of a Marin County singer
songwriter I used to know -- Mike Mirabella.

j a c

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:08:13 -0400
From: "Norman A. Johnson" <njohnson@ent.umass.edu>
Subject: [RS] Transit's start

I wrote:

>> I was one of the lucky ones to hear "Transit Interruptus" last year. The
mood of the song was also very different. <<

John asked:

>>Norman, was this a Falcon Ridge workshop version? >>

No, it was before Falcon Ridge. April '99. Tne Iron Horse. 

He had just written it on his drive north and still relied on a lyric
sheet. When he came to the impass, he tossed the lyric sheet up into the air.

Lisa and Katie and a few others on the list were also there.

Norman

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:05:54 -0400
From: "Dupas, Edward (E.M.)" <edupas2@ford.com>
Subject: RE: [RS] Re: Troubled by Transit

<<Compare this with the inhabitants of the prison: crack dealers and
murderers, quite literally the scum of the earth, who in some twisted
way are to be "saved" because they "believe" and subscribe to the cult
of forgiveness.>>

Why do they have to be the "scum of the earth?"  What if they are truly
repentant and have experienced a change of heart?  After serving their time
are they elevated to a level above scum or are they marked for life?
Something to remember is that there is (presumably) a whole prison yard for
of thieves, etc. who are lifting weights and smoking cigarettes while
planning how not to get caught next time.  The prisoners in the common-room
are looking to change and seeking forgiveness.  If they have indeed been
rehabilitated I think they should be able to apply for an upgrade from scum
to human beings, or at least U.S. citizens.

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:05:52 -0700
From: patrick t power <ptpower@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [RS] The Transit Waltz

John wrote:

<<To say the song bothers me is too strong.  It causes me to ponder
things.>>

Well, *that's* a ponderous comment if ever I've seen one!


Pat

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:03:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Paul DePasquale <nypdp@rcn.com>
Subject: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V2 #271

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You know, not too many months ago I heard RS and Miss Lucy duet on "Love 
Hurts"
at her show at Makor in New York City.  They really do need to record that.
There are so many famous renditions of that song floating around, but 
"floating
around" is exactly what their two voices do on that song. It really is an
original treatment and I crave it.
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:22:29 EDT
From: "Sally Green" <sallyagreen@hotmail.com>
Subject: [RS] Transit inside the snake

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Ed wrote:
<<That "religious" baggage has got to be stowed in the back of RS's Audi
somewhere.>>

He's driving a minivan, now -- so perhaps he sees himself as one of those 
sucked into the vortex.
Pat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Dave Barry wrote a great little essay about getting older - he compared 
adulthood to getting ingested by a huge snake, so slowly that you don't 
realize you're being eaten until you're already inside.  He knew that he was 
inside the snake when he got $800 from a magazine article and actually 
considered buying a couch with it.  So he bought an electric guitar instead.

I've been feeling myself starting to get sucked into the snake these days at 
the ripe old age of 26.  So far it's been little stuff, but I have no doubt 
that one day I'll just salivate at the thought of buying a minivan.  It will 
be awfully convenient when I have two kids and a dog.

Anyway, about "Transit" - this is a really powerful song that hit me like a 
sock full of marbles when I finally got it.  I had kind of listened to it 
with half an ear when I first got SNP, but when I was on a road trip with 
friends, one of whom is from NJ, and I mentioned "Transit", she said, 
"Awwwwwwww, that's the song where the poor NJ motorists all miss their 
exit!"  Such things are important for New Jerseyites, I guess.  ;)

But her observation compelled me to listen more, and I concluded that God or 
someone had magically spirited all the motorists way past their exits so 
Sister Maria could make it to choir practice on time.  And the more I 
listened, the more it drew me in.

My favorite part is the ending of the song when RS's voice is rising and 
rising, singing about the glorious harmony and Sister Maria's soul like a 
prism.  It's the same feeling I get at the "single hawk in God's great sky, 
looking down with God's own eyes.  It soars above Reunion Hill; I pray he 
spiral higher still, as if from such an altitude, he might just keep my love 
in view."

It makes me grateful that Richard can see such beauty in the world and can 
translate it so beautifully.

- --Sally

P.S.  I want to encourage everyone on the list to think before you post in 
irritation.  If someone is doing something that you don't think is good list 
etiquette, try emailing them privately, off-list, before posting to the 
whole list and likely embarrassing them.  One could even try to be polite 
about it.
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