From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V2 #225 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Tuesday, August 29 2000 Volume 02 : Number 225 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V2 #223 [Tom926@aol.com] Re: [RS] Was Calling the Moon - Dar's Music [HEYJC01@aol.com] [RS] Liner notes. [Rongrittz@aol.com] RE: [RS] Was Calling the Moon - Dar's Music ["Dupas, Edward (E.M.)" ] [RS] More Wisteria; Quisp and Quake again [Pfleary@aol.com] [RS] WFUV Continues To Rule The Airwaves!! ["Batgirl of the Night" > Tom: As far as I know, each of Richard's CDs DOES include the lyrics in the liner notes -- at least on the copies I have. Take another look!!! In any case, welcome to the list. RG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:35:37 -0400 From: "Dupas, Edward (E.M.)" Subject: RE: [RS] Was Calling the Moon - Dar's Music <> Oh, you must have "I Have No History" and "All My Heroes Are Dead," because those are the only two Dar albums I haven't heard and I know the ones I have don't have shallow lyrics. I understand the "busy" argument, but that is what some people love about Dar (myself included). Songs like Mortal City and SCWTBWNY are definitely "rambly," but they are also among my favorites. P.S. Since this is the Richard list I must mention that I thought Richard's lyrics were pretty thin and maybe a little "canned" when I first heard him...but I'm feeling much better now. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:30:56 EDT From: RockinRonD@aol.com Subject: [RS] No Regrets Contrary to what some may think, there's been no spitting contests, or inappropriate debates going on here of late, just people expressing their points of view. I'd like to think we're an intelligent lot with more to say than the average bear. I found RonG's explanation of "relating" to Richard songs and earlier Dar fascinating and I could not have spoke more eloquently about my own feelings. He summed it all up perfectly. We all already agree that Richard Shindell is one of contemporary music's greatest living songwriters. But the beauty of his work is bound to mean different thing to different people. I, for one, like hearing other points of view on how the music affects them personally, even if it's not in line with my own. It's how we continue to learn. Ron ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:58:50 EDT From: Gf212121@aol.com Subject: [RS] Regrets? I've had a few... Hey you guys, Rockin Ron D wrote: << I found RonG's explanation of "relating" to Richard songs and earlier Dar fascinating and I could not have spoke more eloquently about my own feelings. He summed it all up perfectly.>> Couldn't agree more. I apologize if anyone thought I was disagreeing with Ron G. in any way, regarding intent, content, or discontent. I don't think he thinks I was (at least I hope so). I was trying, in my sometimes-too-clever-for-my-own-good way, to back him up, and help turn the conversation FROM the sort of things I was referring to. Maybe I'll have to start using those damned little smiley faces after all. Oh, well. Gene F. (who will, on occasion, read what I've written a few days later, and not get it myself.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:23:04 -0700 From: Lee Wessman Subject: [RS] wisteria While Wisteria was the first song off SNP to penetrate me -- a beautiful melody and a topic everybody can relate to -- since then it has developed a negative connotation. I recently bought a house with a huge wisteria vine that wants to curl up under the eaves, lift off the rooftop, buckle the siding, crack the foundation and swallow my children whole. Every time I go out tottering on the ladder with pruning shears, I find myself humming "I know it's a chore to tame" through clenched bicuspids. - -lee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:43:48 EDT From: Pfleary@aol.com Subject: [RS] More Wisteria; Quisp and Quake again <> Keep the children on a tether by day, strap them in when they go to bed at night, and keep pruning! Rockin Ron wrote: <> I would say that I agree with that for the most part, but for some reason was a little worried that a "spitting contest" was beginning to take shape. Also, I just wanted to make a witty reference to breakfast cereals of yore. The other night my partner and I were talking music and songwriters over dinner and she says, "I think Richard Shindell is a much better songwriter than Dar Williams." I looked her straight in the eye and said, "It's a damn good thing we live a long way from Brooklyn." :-) PETER ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:23:54 EDT From: "Batgirl of the Night" Subject: [RS] WFUV Continues To Rule The Airwaves!! Hey to All! Wfuv is currently playing "Another Mystery" and earlier they played "Are You Happy Now". Everyday seems to be a treat for all of us on the 3 lists!!! Hmm....hint, hint,I think a Lucy song is in order soon!!! Everyday I thank my lucky stars for this radio station, I couldn't get through the day without the daily dose of Dar, Richard and Lucy it provides me with while I'm slaving away here at work!!! Renee Polgar *The Super Busy Copy Queen!* _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:23:28 EDT From: "Batgirl of the Night" Subject: [RS] WFUV Continues To Rule The Airwaves!! Hey to All! Wfuv is currently playing "Another Mystery" and earlier they played "Are You Happy Now". Everyday seems to be a treat for all of us on the 3 lists!!! Hmm....hint, hint,I think a Lucy song is in order soon!!! Everyday I thank my lucky stars for this radio station, I couldn't get through the day without the daily dose of Dar, Richard and Lucy it provides me with while I'm slaving away here at work!!! Renee Polgar *The Super Busy Copy Queen!* _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:35:31 -0400 From: Elwestrand Subject: Re: Re: [RS] Was Calling the Moon - Dar's Music ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number - Free Free voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag - ---- On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, HEYJC01@aol.com (HEYJC01@aol.com) wrote: > Do you recommend Dar's The Green World? > Jeff Well if you didn't "get" her other albums you will like this one even less! This album speaks to right from the heart of what Dar's music has always been about. Songs like Iowa, This is not the House that Pain Built, Your Aging Well, The Ocean, As Cool as I Am, Friends, The Blessings. The album is very focused on trying to remain spiritually whole and have self-esteem in a world hell bent on telling us we are less than. Actually, I think that I just put my finger on an important difference between Richard and Dar. I think Dar has an agenda. I don't really sense one with Richard. Which is not a criticism of Richard. I don't need him to have an agenda. Does anyone else sense a running theme with him? The only thing I pick up is just a general humanistic thread. Which in its own way is a essage,too. Did I answer my own question? Or am I turning into SGold? E And P.S. -note to all future artists: if you write a new song, whatever you do don't let Richard record it first. I love Dar (obviously) but I have the feeling the Richard understands the soul of that song better than Dar. Which of course, is ironic. ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V2 #225 ***********************************