From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V2 #175 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Monday, July 24 2000 Volume 02 : Number 175 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Dar's new CD [Gf212121@aol.com] Re: [RS] Foxy Richard [Rongrittz@aol.com] RE: [RS] "War against silence" review ["Norman A. Johnson" ] [RS] FRFF [Vanessa Wills ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:31:43 EDT From: Gf212121@aol.com Subject: [RS] Dar's new CD Hey you guys, WFUV will be playing Dar's new CD 'The Green World' on their long-player program Thursday at 8 PM. If you live outside of the New York area, and can't move within the next three days, you can go to www.wfuv.org and listen to the streaming audio feed. Gene F. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 20:21:09 EDT From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] Foxy Richard << At the 10 PM show Richard did not play his Martin but his new C.Fox--a good looking guitar but the acoustics are so bad at Makor that I couldn't really get a bead on how the guitar sounds. It looks really well made and he had it at Falcon Ridge as well where he just NAILED Fleur De Lis on it during one of the Workshop Stage presentations. I sat about five feet from him and I can tell you, this guitar SINGS! >> Oh, baby, does it ever. He used it at the Turning Point on Friday night, and I was amazed by its warmth (ah, that cedar top will do it every time) and strength. He let me play it between shows (heck, for all the times I've loaned him MY guitars, it's the least he can do, eh?) and while I wasn't blown away by its playability, it sure sounds sweet. For $3000, it BETTER sound good. RG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 20:31:47 -0400 From: "Norman A. Johnson" Subject: RE: [RS] "War against silence" review John Clary said: >>I don't hear anything I'd call a mainstream radio single from any of Richard's records (disclaimer: I'm no A&R expert) except that the SNP version of Confession comes close. >> Exactly. I think that was the point glenn mcdonald was trying to make. >> Larry Campbell is one helluva producer. >> And guitar player, and fiddle player, and practically anything with strings player. >>As for Richard's intentions, I have suspected that he writes because he has to -- not because he wants to be a commercial success. His songs have too much substance to be comfortable for the mainstream. >> Just when did it happen that writers of substance were eliminated from having a possibility of mainstream success? Norman ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 22:22:16 -0400 From: Katie Mahoney Subject: [RS] DAVE AND TRACY!!!!! Hi all! Jeff said of Dave Carter and Tracy Grammer: >After catching their main stage set on Friday night, and >all of their workshop performances, I have decided that >I'm going to marry one of them. I don't care which, and >if it need be, I'll marry both, but that is how in love I am >with their talent. Dibs on the other one! I suppose I could settle for being their live-in fan, but marriage would be so much easier to explain. I was going to spend a lot of time saying exactly what Jeff did, but he nicely covered all the fine points, so I'll leave it at that. I am obsessed with these people. Ob. Sessed. The only moment all weekend when I experienced a negative emotion was when I had to sacrifice the first half of the Richard-Mary-Dave and Tracy workshop in favor of the gospel wake up call. Man, if I hadn't been waiting all year to hear "Great Day," I don't know if even Moxy, Eddie, and the Nields could have stood up to Dave and Tracy. I don't know what kind of stupid fool I was not to run out and buy both of their albums when everyone on this list started raving about them, but I am so in love with When I Go that I almost can't stand it. I'd like to see someone just *try* not to like them after hearing "When I Go," "Kate and the Ghost of Lost Love," and "The River, Where She Sleeps." I must have listened to the album fifteen times since last night. Perhaps more. No, make that DEFINITELY more. Okay, I'll spare you the further sordid details of my raging obsession, but mark my words, you haven't heard the last about them from *this* email account. Until next time . . . Ciao! Katie ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 22:37:43 -0400 From: Vanessa Wills Subject: [RS] FRFF Vanessa here, after resting from work, where she rushed in this morning, several hours late, with all of her stinky, stinky luggage from Falcon Ridge, a.k.a. the Richard Shindell Extravaganza, where she met so many of you wonderful listers, but sadly, not enough. I did do some poking around Camp Dar, but at the wrong times--I did however, meet tigerboy there. I also met: a lurker named Jenna, Rich Boniface, Gene and Isabel, Pat Power, Susan, and lots of other people, but please don't be mad at me if I can't remember your name. :-( Of the artists, Richard was the only one I bothered to say howdy to. I practically didn't even consider trying to meet the Nields there--the crowds were ridiculous. And I wanted to say Hi to Mary Gauthier, but though she did hang around and talk to people after the Songwriting workshop on Sunday, I was just a little too slow. Let me focus on a few highlights: During Richard's headlining set, I commandeered someone's tarp, in the front row, and thereby met some neat teenage girls who informed me that they *loved* Richard Shindell. The owner of the tarp returned but good-naturedly allowed me to stay. :-) The set was awesome, and I know y'all have laughed at me for saying this before, but there is just getting to be something so rock star about Richard's performing style when he has a band behind him. The seeming unflappability and cool, analyzing air that he always has about him morphs into a big and swaggering stage presence and it's a very intriguing and fun side of Richard that we don't see when he performs solo. Anyways. . . the show was awesome, and though I was so jealous of you guys who get to see Larry play with Richard soon, the Putnam fellow was pretty darn good his own bad self. Of course, there wasn't that ripping intro to "Transit" that Larry nailed at the Bottom Line, but he was certainly a very competent player. And Lincoln and Denny sounded so, so much better than they did at the Bottom Line! Lincoln, especially, was out of control with those drums--really something. :-) Ahh, and then there was Sunday. Richard from 10 in the morning until 4 in the afternoon, if you wanted it (Two workshops, a CD signing, and then guest appearances with Lucy and John Gorka). The workshops in the morning were awesome, and Jeff Lang, an Australian guitarist and singer/songwriter just blew me away. He was ridiculously good, playing with loops and assorted pedals, and driving the audience wild. The first workshop was covers, so that allowed for some Cry3 reliving--very nice. And then the second workshop was just great, and my goodness, if Dave Carter isn't just the cutest thing I ever saw! He performed a song with Tracey that wasn't even quite finished yet, and he just looked so adorable, apologizing his way through the song (which was, by the way, glorious) and forgetting the words, and shaking his head with that dear-Lord-what-have-I-gotten-myself-into look. He joked that there were many ways to write songs, for example, one could figure them out as one went along, while performing for hundreds of people at a paying gig. Nonetheless, the audience cheered and whistled loudly when it was done, and was just so encouraging and so happy and nice. Dave looked truly amazed and remarked, "You sure are a merciful bunch." The highlight of the festival for me, was Richard doing as his last song of the Songwriting workshop, "Fleur de Lis." He started introducing it, and he said it was the first song he ever finished. Well of course, that's Fleur de Lis, but I was like, Nah, he's not gonna do it. And he was playing the chords for it, and they were (at least, I think they were) the chords and the key for AYHN, and I was like, "He's not really gonna do that song *again*, is he?" (Forgive me). And then when he started singing I was completely and utterly blown away. It was like a dream, this wonderful moment that I didn't want to end. I still can't believe it happened. It sounds very different these days, a lower key in a better part of Richard's voice, lots more finger-picking and filling in of the spare places in the studio recording. That just made me so happy, especially since it's kind of risky, singing that song for a field full of people who are largely new to you and your work. Go Richard. :-) I bought Mary Gauthier's new album, "Drag Queens in Limousines." She was great all weekend! And so darn funny, too--I think she made a lot of new fans this weekend. I loved Vance Gilbert--gotta get his new album soon. Let me segue into telling you who I do not like all that much--Moxy Fruvous. Not only are their songs okay at best, they use the same intervals between voice parts in all their harmonies and their songs all sound the same to me. They also seem just a tad overconfident. Add to their mediocrity a severe lack of sensitivity to the audience--they sang a song about killer tents, which had a line about the tents eating Vance. One of their members remarked, "Guess they like dark meat." hmm. I'm absolutely sure it was "just a joke", and no harm was intended, but it sure didn't make me want to be very sympathetic toward them. Whatever--everyone has their audience, that's what my mama always told me. Bought the new Peter Mulvey, but I'm not even gonna go there--let me just say, It is very good. ;-) Cliff Eberhardt and John Gorka were both awesome, and Dar was a lot better than I expected. I've never seen her solo act before, and she is so, so much better live than she is on her CDs. OK, that's my report. :-) Peace, Love, and Mischief, Vanessa P.S. I love Falcon Ridge! All that stuff about a 3-day community and all the fun and love and happiness--it's true! :-) ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V2 #175 ***********************************