From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V2 #70 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Wednesday, May 17 2000 Volume 02 : Number 070 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Why Split Bills? ["Young/Hunter Mgt." ] Re: [RS] Why Split Bills? ["Brian Williamson" ] Re: [RS] Why Split Bills? [SMOKEY596@aol.com] [RS] from the Gorka-List [ptpower@juno.com] [RS] Richard in Ann Arbor -- May 16, 2000 [ptpower@juno.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 16:10:00 -0400 From: "Young/Hunter Mgt." Subject: [RS] Why Split Bills? Shindellites -- The question was asked on the list as to why artists do split bills. Basically, its when a promoter is unsure as to how well either of the two performers would draw on their own. You can bet that if a split bill show is packed, each artist will get their own night at that venue next time! How have the midwest run of shows done in terms of attendence? I'd love to hear (Richard never tewlls me anything). By the way, sorry about the opener in Grand Rapids. I have no idea who the hell the guy was -- it was somebody the radio station suggested. How long did he play for? We have in the contract that - except for split bill situations - openers are to play 25 minute sets. In terms of record sales, we continue to do wonderfully, with over 20,000 copies shipped, and SoundScans of over 8,000; which is an average of 550+/week since release. Amazon.com has ordered over 1,200 copies of PATERSON -- and they don't soundscan! Neither did the 4,000 copies sold by Starbucks! Thank you all so much for your help! - -- Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 17:10:16 -0400 From: "Brian Williamson" Subject: Re: [RS] Why Split Bills? Hi Charlie, I was at the Newport, KY show last Friday night. I guess, technically, that is part of the midwest run. Our show was well attended, I thought. The Southgate House venue holds about 200 total and I would say it was over 3/4 full. Our opening act was Lynn Miles and she was very good. She said that she thought most people were there to see Richard. From the crowd reaction, I would agree. Nothing against Lynn as everyone seemed to enjoy her set. I definitely think that Richard could fill that room by himself. Once again, nothing against Lynn, but the double billing really made the show run late. I commuted from Lexington (about 80 miles south) with five others in tow. When the opening act did not start until after 9:00 and Richard did not come on until almost 10:30 it made our ride back last until almost 2:00am. That's probably nothing for the youngsters, but for us "40 and 50 somethings", it seemed that an earlier start time would have been great. I think the other thing that bothers me just a bit about double billings is that you don't get enough of either artist. I'd wished Richard had been able to play Aubelita and Cold Missouri Waters and actually I thought it would have been neat if he and Lynn had tried Mary Magdelene together. He called her back on stage during his encore and they did "Sing Me Back Home" together and they sounded great. Then he gave his (new Martin!) guitar to her and she played "You Don't Love Me Anymore" and he harmonized with her. It sounded really, really good! Well, I've rambled enough. Just my .02. brian. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Young/Hunter Mgt. To: Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 4:10 PM Subject: [RS] Why Split Bills? > Shindellites -- > The question was asked on the list as to why artists do split bills. > Basically, its when a promoter is unsure as to how well either of the two > performers would draw on their own. You can bet that if a split bill show is > packed, each artist will get their own night at that venue next time! How > have the midwest run of shows done in terms of attendence? I'd love to hear > (Richard never tewlls me anything). > > By the way, sorry about the opener in Grand Rapids. I have no idea who the > hell the guy was -- it was somebody the radio station suggested. How long > did he play for? We have in the contract that - except for split bill > situations - openers are to play 25 minute sets. > > In terms of record sales, we continue to do wonderfully, with over 20,000 > copies shipped, and SoundScans of over 8,000; which is an average of > 550+/week since release. Amazon.com has ordered over 1,200 copies of > PATERSON -- and they don't soundscan! Neither did the 4,000 copies sold by > Starbucks! > > Thank you all so much for your help! > -- Charlie > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 18:30:56 EDT From: SMOKEY596@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] Why Split Bills? Charlie, I was also at the Newport, KY show, and I'll have to agree with Brian on wishing Richard had more time to do more songs. I'll take his word on the capacity of the room. As far as how full it was, I can only say it was fuller than the Nields/John Gorka show, but not as full as the Ellis Paul/Catie Curtis show. It was packed that night, and although I hate to say it (because I was there to see Ellis!), I think the majority of that crowd was there to hear Catie. I also traveled several hours to get there, and it seemed a lot of folks were from out of town. I know that lately that's the ONLY place I've been able to see my favorite folk performers in this area. How about bringing some of them to Central Indiana?? We're pretty liberal-minded around the Bloomington area. :-) SMOKEY Bless your sweet mistakes, That crumble you down to your knees. That brought you to this place Changing you by degrees... When change was just what you needed... -Ellis Paul ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 00:55:58 -0700 From: ptpower@juno.com Subject: [RS] from the Gorka-List This comment was made by someone who just happened to pick up Richard's CD -- never having heard of him (or so I gathered) previously. <> Needless to say, I didn't rebut. Pat ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 01:36:45 -0700 From: ptpower@juno.com Subject: [RS] Richard in Ann Arbor -- May 16, 2000 Well, it was a rather strange evening at the Ark tonight. I arrived to see Ed and Melissa (both of "Let's take a three-day trip to Cambridge to see the last CryCryCry show" fame) first in line at the Ark. Peter Mulvey again opened for Richard and did a nice, tight five-song set. Dave Siglin, the Ark's head honcho gave Peter a *very* exuberant introduction . . . . . . which was not afforded Richard. Hmmm . . . It occurred to me moments before Richard was introduced that Radoslav Lorkovic would be with him on this night as the piano was miked and lighted. Knowing that Richard doesn't play the piano, it finally dawned on me. The set list: Sonora's Death Row The Next Best Western Wisteria Confession Are You Happy Now? Abuelita Fishing Sittin' On Top Of The World You Stay Here Lazy Reunion Hill Arrowhead Shades Of Gray Transit Sing Me Back Home (Encore) Rad came on stage when Richard was introduced and they launched into "Sonora's Death Row" -- Rad on accordion. From the beginning, there were sound problems -- a little feedback here, Richard having to ask for more vocals on a few occasions, Rad asking for more of Richard in *his* monitor. It's my opinion, too, that Richard and Rad have to rehearse a bit more together. If ever they have had an evening where they clicked -- this wasn't it. "Wisteria" was okay, but Rad's piano didn't add anything in the least. I could see that Rad was having trouble finding the key for "Confession" (the look on his face told all) and I could *hear* it, despite his attempts to play lightly. Well, Richard could hear it too and stopped the song and started over after telling Rad which key he was in. It appeared that they hadn't worked out the ending together, so I'm sure that Richard was quite happy to have that one behind him. He then told the "Duck Story" *and* the "Are You Happy Cow?" joke (which got more laughter this time out (although I think it's a lame joke . . . sorry!). I think that it was about this time ("Are You Happy Now?") that I noticed a woman in the front row who was dancing in her seat, who pretty much continued to do so the rest of the evening. Boy!! Talk about obnoxious! It had to drive the people *immediately* behind her nuts!!! I was fifty feet away from her and it drove me nuts!! Richard let Radoslav know that he'd be doing "Reunion Hill" solo, and what a wonderful job he did with this. I am really liking this slowed down version with every listen. When I mentioned it to Richard in Grand Rapids the other night, he said that it looks as if this will be its permanent arrangement. I noticed something the other night in Flint when he sang "Arrowhead" that I listened for tonight, and that was a lyric change. He sang "Today we're marching over bloody hell" (as opposed to "Bloody Hill"). I wish I could have hung around to ask him about that but I couldn't. Has this been happening elsewhere? When they returned for the encore, I requested "Friend Of The Devil" but he had already decided that it would be "Sing Me Back Home" ("We already have a winner"). Aside from the problems with sound and accompaniment (or likely this was directly related to them), Richard appeared to be in a not-so-good mood. His between-song patter was considerably less than I'd witnessed over the last several shows. Oh, he smiled at the audience after each song, but there was little embellishment -- no mention of the stupidity of the protagonist of "Sonora's Death Row"; no talk of the "perfectly happy relationship" before, during or after "Are You Happy Now?" His only comments of note came after "Confession" ("Hey Duck"), and prior to "Abuelita" and "Lazy" ("my world-famous bosa nova song"). This is just a guess, but I'd say that this wasn't Richard's most pleasant concert experience (although I was satisfied come night's end). Pat ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V2 #70 **********************************