From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V2 #53 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Tuesday, May 2 2000 Volume 02 : Number 053 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [RS] Iron Horse show ["L. Davis" ] Re: [RS] Great (p)reviews of Richard, but don't forget us in the bandless zone... ["L. Davis" Subject: Re: [RS] Iron Horse show Clarifications: "bass was o.k." was a neutral term, not a negative. I hve a bassplayer friend who might have had the ability to comment. I like bass with Richard's songs and thought this was just fine. no arguments or criticisms. Drums: it all depends. I think the drums are indeed fabulous and inspired on "Confession," for instance. And some other songs -- I got distrcted on "Fishing" and didn't listen as well as I might have. And then on some *other* songs, and I guess those were more numerous, the drums were a bit more bang, bang, bang. I think that may also be because the tempo was a tad slower on some songs, either to make up for earlier fast shows, or because they're new to it, or what have you, but it sounded slower to my ears and in that situation the relentless bang of the drums is more noticeable. What can I say. I know it when I hear it. Sometimes drums can be either frenzied or subtle, sometimes they are fairly monotonous. Most people think Ringo Starr wasn't an exceptionally good drummer. But look where he went! :) Best drumming I can think of right now is the drummer for fairport convention before he died -=- long before my time :) but if you can ever hear their very very early stuff with Sandy denny, WOW. I think I tend to resonate very strongly to the drums, the rhythm, anyway. The other thing is that the sound in the IH may be such that if you sit in certain places some things appear louder. That is I thought Richrad needed more voice, but he thought it was perfect. So presumably we weren't hearing the same things. Nothing you can do about that,e xactly, except to note thta I also thoughht the same thing at Yale so it may be a function of being on stage vs. inn the audience. Also, it may be obnoxious, but I think one ought to say "constructively" what one thinks about a show rather than just praise it on principle. Not that RICHARD need listen (as I told him) but ultimately if there is anything useful to add, why not add it for the poweres that be to take note? Meanwhile on the New Haven Green below my window the May Day celebration seems to involve some very appealing folk rock of some kind with drums that i =-- wait, it's Moody Blues cover tunes -- very nice! and the drums I do like! :) :) :) Wish I knew the tech. terms for the different instruments so I could say just *which* drum is a bit annoying! lisa loquacious ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 22:23:25 -0400 From: "L. Davis" Subject: Re: [RS] Great (p)reviews of Richard, but don't forget us in the bandless zone... And another thing. Timothy, fear not, although it has been great *fun* to hear Richard with a band, and especially to see him have that much fun, I still say that solo Richard is an unforgettibly intense experience, unmatched by these livelier occasions. I defy anyone to top that Yale concert. lisa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 23:57:41 -0400 From: "L. Davis" Subject: Re: [RS] Great (p)reviews of Richard, but don't forget us in the bandless zone... And *another* thing. this thread came up before but for various personal reasons I'd like to raise it again. Obviously Richard's own experience has him steeped in the stories/images/myths of teh judeo-christian tradition, as they say, but with an emphasis on *christian.* While I don't really call myself a christian, the new testament has at various times had a lot of appeal to me, so that's fine. However, I have some relatively earnest jewish friends, and I kind of regret the prevailing references to jesus in richard's songs, because I have to feel that this will put them off. I mean as 1/2 a jew myself I can find this disquieting, occasionally. Just as richard points out all the mythic and story-telling package that comes with one or two references to that tradition, there's a lot of ugly baggage too. I just listened to shades of blue, shades of grey, and I really like it and more to the point it would have been just the thing to play these friends, had it not been the "going to jesus" aspect of it. Obviously not a problem for Lucy! What has she had to say about this, anyway? lisa ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V2 #53 **********************************