From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V12 #265 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Saturday, February 2 2013 Volume 12 : Number 265 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [RS] Much Madness, Round One. [Phueber@aol.com] Re: [RS] Much Madness, Round One. [Norman Johnson ] Pedro's [RS] Much Madness, Round One. [Pete Jameson Subject: Re: [RS] Much Madness, Round One. Great project. My choices. 1. Mariana's TableB You Stay Here Norman's choice: You Stay Here. How does RS convey so much angst in so few words? 2. A Tune For Nowhere Waiting For The Storm Norman's choice: A Tune for Nowhere. I love the last verse with the girl playing a flute in the war torn Nowhere. 3. Abuelita B B B B Wisteria Norman's choice: Wisteria - You Can't Go Home Again.B 4. Last Fare Of The Day B B B B Get Up Clara Norman's choice: Last Fare. Brilliant quiet but triumphant song post 9/11. 5. Ascent TV Light Norman's choice: Ascent. Weak pairing. 6. Balloon Man B B B B Easy Street Norman's choice: Balloon Man. Another weak pairing. 7. Confession B B B B Fenario Norman's choice: Confession. Captures pre-tech bubble crash Wall Street perfectly.B 8. Howling At The Trouble B B B B By Now Norman's choice: By Now. This one would give Dexter Morgan the creeps. 9. I Saw My Youth Today B B B B You Again Norman's choice: You Again. Hard decision, but I love the phrase "Wide eyed, and half awake." 10. Parasol Ants There Goes Mavis Norman's choice: Parasol Ants. Even a busted two bit crook is God from the vantage point of the ants. 11.One Man's Arkansas B B B B State of the Union Norman's choice: SOTU. I love the connections made in this song! 12. On A Sea Of Fleur-De-Lis B B B B Hazel's House Norman's choice: Fleur-De-Lis. I don't understand what it means, neither does Richard, but it still is intriguing. 13. Mary Magdalene B B B B So Says The Whipporwill Norman's choice: Mary Magdalen. One of the iconic RS songs. It deserved a bye! Norman ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 00:24:22 -0500 From: margaret kraft Subject: [RS] Much Madness, a confession, and Drew Nelson This is a very fascinating event--even here in the early going. I will not be voting, as I am realizing just how unqualified I am. I came to this list as a lurker in the waning days of discussion boards. I was very active on others, just had poor timing here. I may or may not have even introduced myself. I echo the sentiments of others who feel that FB doesn't come close to filling the gap. I seem to remember a jump to myspace (for which I opted out) prior to FB. There is something about connections made via music--particularly very meaningful music--that cannot be shared with the masses. Here's the BIG CONFESSION portion of this post. I started listening to this folk/singer-songwriter/whatever-you-may-call-it music in the late 90's. I had so many recommendations from my new folky friends...Richard high on the list. When I finally purchased one of his CDs (not having a large enough bank to buy everything that has been recommended even to this day), I didn't like it. Yes, right here on the Shindell list, I said that. I didn't like it. I listened through 3 or 4 times and just didn't get it. I then gave the CD to a good home and made the recipient promise not to *out* me to our other friends. Fast forward a year or so, I start dating my now ex-husband (Hi Bill if you hang out here), and he and I went to see Richard live. I was absolutely blown away. There have certainly been many artists that I enjoy MUCH more live than recorded, but never such a huge turnaround. I'm not sure what the reason, and I have enjoyed all the subsequent CDs I have purchased. Bill had many, many of Richard's songs on various playlists, so I have heard and enjoyed of Richard's music in the time since I got it right. However, when I get a new CD, I play it about a gazillion times. I pore over the liner notes. I will repeat a single song over and over and over again--either because I want to be sure I get it--or because I love it so much to begin with. Since I didn't do that with most of Richard's library, I am left in need of serious Richard Remediation. I recognize most of the songs on the list, but I don't *know* them like I do the others. Even if they were on one of Bill's playlists, I didn't get to know them the way that I did the others. I need to repair that--and soon. However, I know it will not be soon enough to participate in this very interesting activity. So, I will continue to read and enjoy the discussion. I may even throw my 0.02 in the middle of discussions as I see fit. (All this on the very large assumption that I won't be excommunicated immediately for my previous statement.) :-) I have only seen Richard play once live since the initial show--at the Attic formerly owned by Eddie. Drew Nelson opened that show, and as some have mentioned--he's worth a listen. Drew played a house concert the following night. It was not like any other house concert I have ever attended. It was a fundraiser for a local charity, and if I understood it correctly, Drew was a friend of a friend of the people hosting it. I only got invited because I was in the right place at the right time after the Attic show. The crowd wasn't a *folk* crowd. I would bet lots of money that nobody besides me was wearing clothes that didn't have a name. It was more of a *party with music* than a house concert...and Drew kicked it's ass. Go see him if you get a chance. Even before this thread, I have my ticket purchased and my day off work requested for Richard's next show in Atlanta...even though it isn't until some time in March. I might be a slow learner, but I do learn. Thanks if you managed to make it all the way through this long ramble. Margaret ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 20:46:05 -0500 From: Howie Subject: Re: [RS] Good old days. Looks like I'll be signing up this week! - -Howie At 10:59 AM 2/1/2013, you wrote: >And I'm susankr on Concert Window - joined in the first couple of weeks. I >just wish I wasn't commuting in a system without reliable wi-fi (BART) so >miss most of the east coast shows. > > > >On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Vanessa Wills wrote: > > > My username on Concert Window is "vcwills". > > > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Jean Rossner wrote: > > > > > If you're on Concert Window and see my username (ookpik) in the "chat" > > > box, please say hi! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 01:26:39 -0500 From: Pete Jameson Subject: Pedro's [RS] Much Madness, Round One. > 1. You Stay Here (spooky, spooky song, especially the part about "I know where God's NOT" > > 2. Waiting For The Storm (we always seem to be doing this in the northern Appalachians) > > 3. Abuelita (NOT FAIR, NOT FAIR! May I allot 1/2 to each?) > Wisteria (all right, if i were a student in my class I'd accuse myself of equivocating -- Wisteria it is -- though it's a heartbreaker for me to revisit this cine-song as I moved often as a child, a "G.M. brat", and back before we left NY I returned to one of our old childhood North Jersey houses -- what I remembered as a vast concatenation with doric columns, a finished attic in which my mates & i once swore we saw the face of JFK on a tapestry (and this was in 8th grade -- no drugs -- on my part at least), and legendary games of goal line stand with my Viking older brothers. Richard, if you're listening: it had to hurt to write this sucker, it hurts so bad(ly) to listen. btw, it's a testament to your English or Writing teachers (and your parents, of course) that you have ascended to the 9th run of the ladder... > > 4. Last Fare Of The Day (too bad Clara had to go so early; i'll be with Last Fare 'til the bitter end) > > > 5. Ascent (o.k. -- but this is an undercard if ever there were one) > > > 6. Balloon Man (my daughter's going to school in San Diego, so this has taken on renewed meaning since September) > > > 7. Confession (Ron, you're a prick to have subjected me to this; aaargh! can't decide -- gotta go to the headphones 2 Feb 12:10 AM -- now 1:03 after starting a cd called "the empire (state) abides" w/Antje, Garland Jeffreys, Amy Correia but back to you good Shin-diggers I have to say that I rarely seek out Confession since 9/11 -- it's a scathing song as its protagonist seeks redemption but is again thrown back into the miasma of The Street...Gotta go with this one because, now that I listen intently again, despite my absolute fondness for Fenario, this is a mind-blower for its emotional depth. > > > 8. Have never heard "Howling" live; my brother started O.E.M.E (Open Ear Music Exchange) in '94 and I included this on my mix called "Hair of the God" - -- juxtaposed with Gorka's "Can You Understand My Joy?" it was the first time any of the other combatants, er participants, had ever heard our boy, but "By Now" is a haunter, and, YES, I get it, Ron, they're similarly frightening, now that I've been illuminated about the sinister sot. > By Now > > 9. I Saw My Youth Today (o.k., dude, now you're pissin' me off) -- in my Harlem days, I ran a youth baseball program and one day, amidst nothing but players of color, walked in my doppelganger, a 10 year old with bright white hair, just a poor kid from the projects, and I couldn't believe he lived where he did -- you see, most of the time on that job i didn't see any anglos except for weekends, so, only because of that moment in my life have you forced me to choose "Youth"...my apologies to you, again. > > > 10. There Goes Mavis - 1st round knock out. Mavis devours the ants... > > 11.State of the Union -- I'm always recovering from something: an injury, an argument, an obsession -- State of the Union is a wonderful tapestry of human frailty. > > 12. On A Sea Of Fleur-De-Lis -- just an entrancing journey...rumour has it that when our bard was chanting in the Buddha field one of the visiting Tibetans offered a recently deceased adrenal gland from a Yeti and RS later composed this in blood on the wall of his cell. > > 13. Mary Magdalene Have I said that yer a prick bastard? Whipporwill is another "haunter" but nothing compares with Mary and her beau. P.S. "Much Madness" is a brilliant title, with a nod to Kerouac and the mad ones...my final suggestion is to listen to Cockburn's "Celestial Horses" before bed, amiga(o)s... ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V12 #265 ************************************