From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V12 #159 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Wednesday, October 17 2012 Volume 12 : Number 159 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [RS] Cellematographers [Janet Cinelli ] [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V12 #157 [Martin Giles Subject: Re: [RS] Cellematographers I too bring my little flip camera to concerts and usually tape one or two songs. I find that is enough for me. Recently seeing Tracy Grammer at Joe's Pub, I started taping Gentle Arms of Eden. But I wanted to participate and put the camera down to enjoy the moment. Janet ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:20:01 +0100 From: Martin Giles Subject: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V12 #157 ----------------- > Re: [RS] Subjectivity [Carol Love < > loracevoll@gmail.com>] Hello folks. I'm someone who is fairly new to RS, and who is on the digest here, but only rarely looks in (I know... sorry!) Last Fare of the Day is one of my favourite songs, but it was only when I saw Carol's post today that I had any idea that it was about 9/11. Do people say this because RS has mentioned it himself? My knowledge of his music is just from listening to the songs - I haven't heard any background from RS or other people. From my ignorant perspective, there's nothing in LFOTD that points directly at 9/11. Maybe the obliqueness of the lyrics has something to do with the enduring power of the song, as opposed to other songs which tackled the event more directly? For me, the song can be read (and I did read it) as about one couple going through one of life's tragedies; unspecified, but in my mind a death in the family. Then in the Spring enjoying one's of life's great gifts. Yes, it's still about hope and moving on, and of course the NY cabby's intersection with these lives. This last, for me, is what makes his music so powerful - he finds a unique approach to subjects that so many song writers fail to do. Martin (In England). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:37:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Johannes Schult Subject: Re: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V12 #157 Martin Giles hat am 17. Oktober 2012 um 10:20 geschrieben: > Last Fare of the Day is one of my favourite songs, but it was only when I > saw Carol's post today that I had any idea that it was about 9/11. Do > people say this because RS has mentioned it himself? Richard mentioned it repeatedly when he introduced the song live. > For me, the song can be read (and I did read it) as > about one couple going through one of life's tragedies According to Richard it's a "two-couple" song; but they are still many one-couple theory believers around. But even though RS wrote the song, I do think that you (just like any other listener) are free to "read" the song any way you like. I mean, I personally find myself clinging to the believe that "By Now" is an innocent tale of teenage rebellion (contrary to Richard's remarks on that topic). I first heard Last fare of the Day recorded live in Ohio, just guitar and piano. My initial reaction was that the song itself is everything but a straight in your face 9/11 song. Musically, the 3/4 rhythm was so refreshing that I was a little bit disappointed by the studio version with the drums that hinder the flow a bit in my humble opinion. Meanwhile, there is another beautiful official live version available on the "Live from Randolph" release. Best regards, Johannes ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V12 #159 ************************************