From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V10 #120 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Wednesday, June 17 2009 Volume 10 : Number 120 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Richard's hair is perfect! [Georgette deFriesse ] Re: [RS] Richard's hair is perfect! [Carol Love ] Re: [RS] Re: RS DVD [] [RS] Colchester show review [Johannes Schult ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:55:15 -0400 From: Georgette deFriesse Subject: [RS] Richard's hair is perfect! Carol Love wrote: > ...........Hey, let me sound like everybody's mother here, but I > think if > Richard had done this professionally -- he would have gotten a hair > cut and > worn a less slouchy shirt. (And I'm a fan of long hair -- but RS > is JUST > like my husband. He doesn't have the hair texture or hair line to > pull off > the long look...) Now you've got my dander up! Richard's hair is perfect on that video. I was watching it, thinking how nice that he's let it grow again. I hit adolescence in the 60s and preferring long hair on guys is part of my hormonal makeup. Georgette ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:30:19 +0100 From: "Neil Pearson" Subject: [RS] Re: RS DVD >> Looks like a bootleg/fan recording to me rather than a pro-shot video. >> If Richard was going to record a show professionally they'd hire at least >> two >> cameras and probably shoot at a more "visual" location like a church or a >> club, with some more substantial lighting and better sound. >> Have to agree with this, it's just a one shot video that would be hard work to watch over the course of 2hrs - still, it's nice to have it at all!. I think the person who stuck it on youtube would have been better served by waiting for the correct sound though, that's assuming they recorded it properly, rather than just a stereo mix from the desk. Filming isn't all that expensive, but recording the sound properly is tricky, and the video and audio mixing time-consuming and best left to a professional. We filmed the recent Darwin Song Project concert on three cameras - it was more an after thought than a plan (a 'because we can' idea), and the people filming it had no idea as to who was playing when, so there are some odd cuts in places. I'd do this bit differently if I could, perhaps with a full rehearsal a day before, but seeing it was all done in 6 days as it was, that would have been tricky. The sound was planned better though, mics everywhere (including 4 over the audience alone) and we recorded 48 individual channels. Mixing the whole album took over 2 weeks, and that was from a very experienced producer/mixer. To get anything near good enough for a release is expensive! The Darwin CD is finished, but we're not even sure what we'll do with the videos yet, there are a couple up on youtube and we could obviously make a DVD if we wanted to....anyway here are 2 of the songs that show what we achieved quality-wise with low filming budget, but a high recording/producing budget. Mark Erelli & Karine Polwart - Mother of Mysteries http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lfg06Xb3bc Clock of the World http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzLgf66oOeE best wishes Neil Darwin Song Project Director - ------------------------------------------------- Fish Records Suppliers of singer/songwriter, folk & acoustic music Shrewsbury, England neil@fishrecords.co.uk http://www.fishrecords.co.uk tel +44 (0) 1743 231546 fax +44 (0) 1743 354354 - ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:57:43 -0400 From: Carol Love Subject: Re: [RS] Richard's hair is perfect! Georgette, I LOVE long hair on a guy, too -- but it has to be full and heavy. Think John Lennon. Guys like RS AND my husband are going through the hair line fade AND have very fine hair. I don't think long hair suits them. I'm sure in his 20's RS was devastatingly handsome with long flowing hair. :-) Peace, ....Carol On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Georgette deFriesse wrote: > Carol Love wrote: > > ...........Hey, let me sound like everybody's mother here, but I think if >> Richard had done this professionally -- he would have gotten a hair cut >> and >> worn a less slouchy shirt. (And I'm a fan of long hair -- but RS is JUST >> like my husband. He doesn't have the hair texture or hair line to pull >> off >> the long look...) >> > > Now you've got my dander up! > > Richard's hair is perfect on that video. I was watching it, thinking how > nice that he's let it grow again. > > I hit adolescence in the 60s and preferring long hair on guys is part of my > hormonal makeup. > > Georgette ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 6:35:34 -0700 From: Subject: Re: [RS] Re: RS DVD >> Have to agree with this, it's just a one shot video that would be hard work to watch over the course of 2hrs << Yeah, but still no worse, though, than sitting at an actual concert where you basically have a "one shot" view from your seat for the whole show. Heck, I think I'd PREFER a locked-down shot than a lot of zooming in and out, long static face shots, and jiggly camera work. >> Filming isn't all that expensive, but recording the sound properly is tricky, and the video and audio mixing time-consuming and best left to a professional. << I would simply love to see Richard do a DVD like the one John Gorka did. Interviews, stories, impeccable camera work, incredible sound. It's not likely, though. RG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:17:24 +0200 From: Johannes Schult Subject: [RS] Colchester show review Dear all, Last Saturday I finally attended my first Richard Shindell concert. (I had come all the way from Germany after logistics prevented me from seeing any of the Dutch gigs.) This occasion warrants a long, verbose report, although it's going to bore you all to death. I'm very sorry. The Headgate Theatre in Colchester was a small place (83 seats); the people there were incredibly nice and polite. Pavlov's Dog opened with half a dozen songs that fit the bill, but (in my humble/ignorant opinion) lacked the overarching melody lines. This is, of course just me - I saw several people happily buying their cd afterwards. The talk in between songs was very entertaining and helped to access the songs (which I hadn't heard before). An unannounced support followed their wake: Hannah Scott & John Carden. Again, there was a lot of musical talent on stage, on the spot, but not tense. Again, the music was nice, but didn't have the gripping story/soaring melodies gripping my attention. There was a short break and Richard came out to do a quick sound/line check. He played a verse and a chorus of an unknown song. It turned out to be a new composition. He opened his set with, eventually. It has a steady beat and a rather upbeat mood, although it's actually about the loss of a pet/dog. It's possibly called "Abby" as the chorus goes something like "Abby's gone to the country" - but maybe it just doesn't have a title, yet. Funnily, there was a guide dog in the audience. All in all, it was a neat opener and a welcome surprise. Still, its lyrics are more in the vein of "Get Up Clara"; there's not as much drama as in songs like "Fishing". Here's a quick run-through of the evening's remaining setlist: Fenario: Richard started after a long introduction (Peggy-O meets William-O...) only to forget the first lines. Blue Divide: suprise Get Up Clara: stunning guitar work Balloon Man: long story, again, very funny; he sung the verse from the EP and it all made, somehow, sense. Arrowhead: one of the first songs I heard and like from Richard; great performance, if you ask me. Reunion Hill: beautiful - incredibly beautiful; this one alone would have been worth the journey to England. There Goes Mavis: my least favourite song this evening; still, the "fly away..."-part gets me every time once the Mavis is out. Are You Happy Now?: sounded really fresh; regular concert goers might know the talk during the song by heart by now, but to me it was quite new and funny and disarming. You Stay Here: another of my "first encounter songs", plus a highlight from my favourite RS album. The dynamics Richard got of his guitar were amazing. By the way: Richard played only one acoustic guitar during the whole evening; no bouzouki, no electric guitar. Also, no 50-piece orchestra. Transit: yet another fascinating one-man-parade/orchestra hymn. Loved it. Ascent: another surprise, worked better than on cd. Cold Missouri Waters (encore): the joy! The pain! A worthy ending, yet, of course, so many great songs remained unplayed; no need to list them here. There were a couple of interim bars between verses that made the whole thing less tight than on previous recordings. Still, a fantastic song, a touching tale, and once again unique vocals. Richard played about 85 minutes and was (I think) very talkative in between songs. I got to chat with him a bit after the show and he was so humble and nice and everything. He also described in great detail to someone else the location of Mariana's in relation to the "Not Far Now" cover picture. Pavlov's Cat had pointed out the camera underneath the roof, but I didn't pay any attention to it afterwards. I'd be thrilled to see the concert on DVD. I also love the gentle zooming and panning of the preview clip. The soundboard tracks will certainly have little coughing on them. Some ambient/room sound might still be nice to get the "live" feeling. Hopefully, we'll see/hear. Oh, and for the record: I prefer Richard with longer hair. Anyway, the concert was really great and well worth the trip! I sat in the third row and had a perfect view and all was good! Johannes ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V10 #120 ************************************