From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V9 #47 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Thursday, April 5 2007 Volume 09 : Number 047 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V9 #46 ["John McDonnell" ] Re: [RS] South of Basel ["Chris Foxwell" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 16:57:13 -0400 From: "John McDonnell" Subject: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V9 #46 Hey all, Love the reviews, but I thought there would be uniform acclaim and reverence (seriously), because while I am not quite at Kristen's level of enthusiasm, I am very excited (in a folk sort of way). I take Adam's point that you can't really compare covers to originals, but this record really confirmed for me what we already know--that RS is a singular talent of rare accomplishment. His take on others' songs strikes me as kind of inside out. Many artists who cover songs seem to me not only put their imprimatur on them, but also adopt them in such a way that it in many ways becomes their song. The RS covers I've heard seem to bring out something in the songs themselves, in a way that brings to light qualities of which I, at least, was never aware. It's almost a form of midwifery, in which unborn qualities are brought forth. The songs still sound great because RS is doing them, but they seem to retain their own identity. I can't really explain it in a way that makes sense, but it's like he takes some songs which I have never really thought about and then you hear him do it and say--Wow! So that's what's going on in that song. And Chris--don't understimate the enthusiasm for the Nietzshean analysis of "There Goes Mavis." I can't wait--(seriously; I was a dual English and Philospohy major!) John McD. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 22:49:54 -0400 From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: [RS] Case(s) in point. >> Many artists who cover songs seem to me not only put their imprimatur on them, but also adopt them in such a way that it in many ways becomes their song. << Case in point: "Shades of Black, Shades of Blue," which, until I was told that Richard did NOT write it, I would have bet all the money in my pocket (well, right now that's only seventeen cents, but you get my drift) that it was an RS original. Another case in point: "Calling the Moon," the reason for which I can't exactly put my finger on, but those of you who know what I mean know EXACTLY what I mean. RG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 22:33:05 -0400 From: "Norman Johnson" Subject: [RS] covers and smokejumpers RonG wrote: >> Case in point: "Shades of Black, Shades of Blue," which, until I was told that Richard did NOT write it, I would have bet all the money in my pocket (well, right now that's only seventeen cents, but you get my drift) that it was an RS original. Another case in point: "Calling the Moon," the reason for which I can't exactly put my finger on, but those of you who know what I mean know EXACTLY what I mean.<< Still another case in point: Cold Missouri waters. I've heard James' version, but Richard's still adds something (more intensity). See also Peter Mulvey's cover of Dar's The Ocean. Norman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 00:40:36 -0400 From: "Chris Foxwell" Subject: Re: [RS] South of Basel On 4/4/07, John McDonnell wrote: > > And Chris--don't understimate the enthusiasm for the Nietzshean analysis > of "There Goes Mavis." I can't wait--(seriously; I was a dual English and > Philospohy major!) Ah, well, don't get your hopes too high then; my lil' old analysis will probably be pretty tame compared to the stuff you're used to. I only dabbled in Philo in school--Anthropology/Astrophysics double here--and anyway it's more of a "take one cool Nietzschean concept and run with it" than it is a comprehensive analysis. Sigh...now that I've gone and opened my big mouth, I guess that means I'll have to make good on the promise...dammit, I knew it was too late in the night to be writing that massive post... - --Chris, who wasn't planning on reading Nietzsche while at home for Easter with the fam... - -- "We were born in a dark age out of due time (for us). But there is this comfort: otherwise we should not know, or so much love, what we do love. I imagine the fish out of water is the only fish to have an inkling of water." - --J.R.R. Tolkien ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V9 #47 **********************************