From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V7 #308 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Tuesday, December 13 2005 Volume 07 : Number 308 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] a glut of bottom-feeders? [Amy Cocuzza ] Re: [RS] a glut of bottom-feeders? [Janet Cinelli ] [RS] Myspace [TontoYoder@comcast.net] [RS] RE: myspace [Jamie Younghans / John McDonnell ] Re: [RS] a glut of bottom-feeders? [Sandy Smith ] [RS] Lawyers, Guns and Money [B Gallagher ] [RS] Re: a glut of bottom-feeders [John McDonnell ] Re: [RS] Myspace [john cleirigh ] [RS] Anyone Know a Good Lawyer? [Bart Gallagher Subject: [RS] a glut of bottom-feeders? Uh-oh, you may be on to something. I'm in labor relations (on the morally-righteous-but-can't-pay-back-the-grad-school-loans-on-this- salary side), but I've decided to go back to school next fall...for law. What did Richard do to deserve this? Amy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:44:45 -0800 (PST) From: Janet Cinelli Subject: Re: [RS] a glut of bottom-feeders? I"m a paralegal, does that count? Janet - --- Amy Cocuzza wrote: > Uh-oh, you may be on to something. I'm in labor > relations (on the > morally-righteous-but-can't-pay-back-the-grad-school-loans-on-this- > > salary side), but I've decided to go back to school > next fall...for > law. > What did Richard do to deserve this? > Amy Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:02:05 +0000 From: TontoYoder@comcast.net Subject: [RS] Myspace It's obvious that the myspace group is a FAN site, not a music profile from the artist himself. To avoid any confusion, the URL has been changed to http://groups.myspace.com/richardshindellfans. And the idea of Richard (or his management) setting up a myspace artist profile is a good one. BTW, here are two myspace sites-- http://groups.myspace.com/johncleirigh http://www.myspace.com/johncleirigh Which one LOOKS like it was set up by the person himself?? >>My only objection is to using a myspace account that looks like Richard set it up (since many folkies, including myself, use myspace to promote ourselves, using our real names as the space name). And since it's now taken, if Richard were to decide to use myspace as another avenue for promotion, he no longer has the option of using the most obvious space name<< Now I understand what you meant when you said it was disrespectful. I was being facetious about the Crips/Bloods thing, but I did get a direct e-mail from Bruce who said it was not his intention to form a splinter or competitive list. He did say, however, that he sent the e-mail directly because his posts no longer get through. I thought that was odd, and certainly nobody owes me an explanation as to the administrative policies of running this list, but is that true? and, if so, any particular reason? Just curious. John McD > shindell-list-digest Tuesday, December 13 2005 Volume 07 : Number 307 > Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:23:57 -0800 > From: john cleirigh > Subject: Re: [RS] myspace? > > On 12/9/05, Jamie Younghans / John McDonnell wrote: > >> Hi All, You guys obviously are more versed in this cyberspace thing > than I, so forgive my ignorance, BUT--is Bruce's idea a splinter > group, potentially setting up a Crips/Bloods dynamic?? Shin-Heads vs. > Shindelleers?<< > > I see no intention on Bruce's part to create a rift. I think it's > cool to have discussions about Richard's music in lots of places and > in lots of forms. My only objection is to using a myspace account > that looks like Richard set it up (since many folkies, including > myself, use myspace to promote ourselves, using our real names as the > space name). And since it's now taken, if Richard were to decide to > use myspace as another avenue for promotion, he no longer has the > option of using the most obvious space name. When an artist creates a > myspace account, the artist gets more features than a regular > account...like streaming mp3s, special space formatting to include gig > schedules, etc., at no charge. These features are not available now > for myspace.com/richardshindell/ unless Bruce were to give control of > the site to Richard. You have to demonstrate copyright ownership to > upload content to myspace artist sites. > > john ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:48:49 -0500 From: Jamie Younghans / John McDonnell Subject: [RS] RE: myspace Hi All, RG wrote: >> Hmmmm . . . I'm not sure what anyone's implying, but let me assure you that there are no "policies" on this list other than the basic netiquette ones outlined in the welcome message (you know, no flames, no spam, no attachments,etc.).<<< I didn't mean to imply anything, but merely quoted Bruce's e-mail that his "posts to the digests no longer get through," which was the stated reason for sending me a direct e-mail. As I say, I found that odd, but certainly if this were a moderated list, that might provide one explanation, and I think would be a fair, albeit somewhat disturbing, inference. Perhaps he has the offending "s" or "u" words in his posts?? I don't know, but I was curious. John McD. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:52:05 -0500 From: Jamie Younghans / John McDonnell Subject: [RS] RE: Henry VI, Part 2, Act 4, Scene 2 Hi All, Lisa wrote: >>What does this mean, is there a correlation between RS fandom and lawyers? frightening thought. For him I mean<< Indeed. Maybe next time he'll think twice about ignoring my request for "Famous Blue Raincoat"!! John McD. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:59:16 -0500 From: "Grant Miller" Subject: [RS] Lawyers as RS fans Another RS fan who is a lawyer (actually a judge, now). I know several other, non-list fans who are, too. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:20:54 -0800 From: Sandy Smith Subject: Re: [RS] a glut of bottom-feeders? Afraid so. Welcome to the cabal! On Dec 13, 2005, at 4:44 AM, Janet Cinelli wrote: > I"m a paralegal, does that count? > Janet > > --- Amy Cocuzza wrote: > > >> Uh-oh, you may be on to something. I'm in labor >> relations (on the >> >> > morally-righteous-but-can't-pay-back-the-grad-school-loans-on-this- > >> >> salary side), but I've decided to go back to school >> next fall...for >> law. >> What did Richard do to deserve this? >> Amy >> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:50:00 -0800 (PST) From: Janet Cinelli Subject: Re: [RS] a glut of bottom-feeders? D'oh! - --- Sandy Smith wrote: > Afraid so. Welcome to the cabal! > On Dec 13, 2005, at 4:44 AM, Janet Cinelli wrote: > I"m a paralegal, does that count? > > Janet Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:08:04 -0500 From: B Gallagher Subject: [RS] Lawyers, Guns and Money Lawyers, What does this mean, is there a correlation between RS fandom and lawyers? frightening thought. For him I mean. Then again it might come in handy. Any others out there? > Nothing sinister going on here. > > RG - ------- Well? You're not a Lawyer. :) I'm the innocent bystander But somehow I got stuck Between a rock and a hard place And I'm down on my luck Send lawyers Behind Bars Bart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:52:38 -0500 From: John McDonnell Subject: [RS] Re: a glut of bottom-feeders Hi All, I don't want to be picky, but I believe the correct collective noun for us bottom-feeders is "pustule." John McD. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:43:58 -0800 From: john cleirigh Subject: Re: [RS] Myspace Excellent move to the ../richardshindellfans/ sub-directory name. That's perfect! Regarding the (http://groups.myspace.com/johncleirigh/) group that Bruce (TontoYoder/You?) created, I'd appreciate it if you deleted it now. Thanks, john On 12/13/05, TontoYoder@comcast.net wrote: > It's obvious that the myspace group is a FAN site, not a music profile > from the artist himself. > To avoid any confusion, the URL has been changed to > http://groups.myspace.com/richardshindellfans. > And the idea of Richard (or his management) setting up a myspace artist profile is a > good one. > > BTW, here are two myspace sites-- > http://groups.myspace.com/johncleirigh > > http://www.myspace.com/johncleirigh > > Which one LOOKS like it was set up by the person himself?? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:48:07 -0500 From: Bart Gallagher Subject: [RS] Anyone Know a Good Lawyer? John Cleirigh pleaded: Regarding the (http://groups.myspace.com/johncleirigh/) group that Bruce (TontoYoder/You?) created, I'd appreciate it if you deleted it now. Thanks, - ------- If Bruce doesn't do as asked, John may need to find an advocaat, I mean an advocate, a $%#**#@ LAWYER. E-mail him off-list with solicitations. BarristerBart "Hey! Is that a broken neck?!" Lionel Hutz, Esq. - After a passing ambulance on The Simpsons. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:23:31 -0800 From: john cleirigh Subject: Re: [RS] Re: a glut of bottom-feeders On 12/13/05, John McDonnell wrote: >> Hi All, I don't want to be picky, but I believe the correct collective noun for us bottom-feeders is "pustule."<< That's a horrible visual! All the lawyers that I count amongst my friends are incredibly good people. No inflamation or pus-filled legions. Of course this may say more about the friends I choose rather than lawyers in general. ;-) john - -- John Cleirigh | P.O. Box 1515 | Felton | CA | 95018 831.239.5564 | http://johncleirigh.com ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V7 #308 ***********************************