From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V7 #306 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Monday, December 12 2005 Volume 07 : Number 306 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [RS] RE: Freebirdware [Sandy Smith ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:31:13 -0800 From: Sandy Smith Subject: Re: [RS] RE: Freebirdware Me too, and I'm the one who raised the alarm! Sandy On Dec 11, 2005, at 8:49 PM, LN Davis wrote: > hey hey -- I'm a lawyer!! :) don't blame the lawyers for their > greedy clients! > Jamie Younghans / John McDonnell wrote: > > >> Hi all, >> >> I was disturbed by Sandy's post regarding the crackdown on >> available tabs >> and lyrics, though RG's point is well taken that it does cut into an >> artist's revenue if they are commercially available. Personally, I >> don't >> know if I would have become as big a fan of RS were it not for >> RG's chord >> site. I had already discovered the music (late in the game) but >> definitely >> would not have bought all the CDs and picked up my guitar without >> the site. >> Granted, those people who have heard me play (family only) may >> question the >> benefit of RG's site (don't worry, Ron, but, you know, sleep with >> one eye >> open) but I am now a true believer, and my family's misery is RS' >> gain. >> That said, how much are artists, whose tabs and lyrics are >> commercially >> available, really making from those sales? I understand RG has to be >> diligent, but is any artist really losing revenue because I have a >> computer? >> (Not me, but you know what I mean). >> >> Also, I think I have said this before, but I'm in agreement with >> Dave Grohl >> (Foo Fighters) who made the point that if you're struggling and >> somebody is >> ripping you off, OK; but if you're a millionaire (a la Metallica) >> and you're >> worried about pennies, then F--- you. The problem is, who is more >> likely to >> be "struggling" but a folk artist in this musical environment? I >> see Lisa's >> point that if it's folk, it should be available; the problem is >> that it has >> been accepted that the music industry is the watchdog for an artist's >> intellectual property rights, which is akin to the fox guarding the >> henhouse, only more so. I don't know if I am typical, but if I >> have chords >> and tabs available, I'll play the songs, but I wouldn't use them >> for a >> public performance, even on a local open mic night--just at home. >> I would, >> however, buy the songs or CDs, so the artist doesn't lose, but >> gains. Also, >> who is making the tabs and lyrics available, but people who are >> competent >> enough to figure them out, and who can gain regardless? >> >> I can read (really), so if I want to have a T.S. Eliot reading at >> the local >> library, do I have to pay his estate? I think so, but how much do >> you think >> I'm bringing in? Am I really cutting in to his estate's revenue? I >> understand that intellectual property rights must be absolute and >> without >> regard to level of income, but it can be a little self-defeating. >> Friggin' >> lawyers. >> >> John McD. ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V7 #306 ***********************************