From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V7 #278 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Thursday, November 17 2005 Volume 07 : Number 278 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V7 #277 [JamesIGreene@aol.com] [RS] Carnegie Hall anyone? [Janet Cinelli ] [RS] RE: Spanish Inquisition II [Jamie Younghans / John McDonnell Subject: [RS] Carnegie Hall anyone? So, how many of us "listers" are going? Did anyone buy John McD.'s tickets? I think we have the seats next to his so please say hello! I'm so excited and can't wait! I've been waiting forever, since June when I bought the tickets. I'm not sure if we'll have time but if anyone has any suggestions to a restaurant nearby that's not too pricey, please email me. I hope he plays those covers he's been doing! Janet __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:58:10 -0500 From: Jamie Younghans / John McDonnell Subject: [RS] RE: Spanish Inquisition II Hi All, OK, I lied. I have another post. One of the reasons I love this list is that there are endless interpretations and perspectives that I find fascinating. I have to say that I am probably more comfortable with the cab driver not just being a literal cab driver on September 15, 2001, though the notion that he may be Muslim is intriguing. This is even a more literal grounding of the setting (you're stereotypical cigar-chomping, flat cap wearing loud mouth cabbie being largely a vestige of film noir) since it recognizes, amongst other things, the current reality and not the stereotype. I suppose, then, the question I have for those of you who feel a connection with the song is that would you feel that connection without a September 11 context? I don't mean that in a confrontational way; I mean it as a real inquiry. (This song is very popular in the Shindell canon, and I'm not sure how many other songs are so widely regarded). I'm a sucker for the symbolic in the actual--I may be predisposed to it, in fact--but one of the reasons I admire and am drawn to RS is that the actual he writes about is often so powerful: the reality of immigration and deportation, an infidelity, an abandoned lover, even a guy with his truck. He just does it so well. So, is it possible just to look at LFOTD as the song of a cabbie on any given day, and identify with him and the couples--or am I being too reductive in that question? Keith noted that he had a different personal connection to each of the couples' situations, so maybe this brings us back to the "Wisteria" debates--it's not just for "older" listeners. Anyway, by the time Saturday rolls around, the list will be abuzz with the Carnegie Hall gig, I'm sure :( I would like to discuss SWCD, as Doug requested, though you "stalker-status" fans may weary of the early work exegesis. John McD. ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V7 #278 ***********************************