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shindell-list-digest       Sunday, July 10 2005       Volume 07 : Number 167



                               Today's Subjects:
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  [RS] dylan                              [sharon G <sdgold60@optonline.net>]
  [RS] Richard's voice                   [Christy Thomas <cbt_stl@yahoo.com>]
  [RS] RE: songwriting, spirituality etc.  [Jamie Younghans / John McDonnell]
  Re: [RS] More Annoying Thoughts                         [Rongrittz@aol.com]

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Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 08:22:46 -0400
From: sharon G <sdgold60@optonline.net>
Subject: [RS] dylan

If Richard can cover Springsteen's Sandy with all those verses, he can
cover Desolation Row or any thing from Blood on the Tracks. 

Rosanne Cash is covering License to Kill, id love to hear RS sing that
one as an Anti- War song. 

Anything from the Another side of Dylan Cd. Chimes of Freedom is an
obvious choice. 

You go your way, Stuck inside of Memphis and I'll be your baby tonight. 

Any of the leaving you, lost you, Gotta go, You gotta go Dylan songs
will do 

Sharon G 

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Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 05:41:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christy Thomas <cbt_stl@yahoo.com>
Subject: [RS] Richard's voice

AH, yes, Sally  --  Richard's voice!

Sally said (in part):
> And finally, part of it is definitely his singing
> voice.  This is the
> most intangible thing to describe...<snipped> 
> ... his voice makes
> my violin strings on
> my heart and soul trill out an answering note of
> something profound.
> It's thrilling.

I enjoyed your description of what this is like for
you...it is quite intangible...but the way I've tried
to explain it to others is that Richard's voice live
is bliss to me.

I too have been enjoying all the reasons people love
Richard's music...and, sometime when I am fully
caffeinated and awake, I'll add mine - one, obviously,
is the bliss mentioned above.

peace,
christy
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Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 15:28:18 -0400
From: Jamie Younghans / John McDonnell <jmcdonn1@optonline.net>
Subject: [RS] RE: songwriting, spirituality etc.

Hi all,  

A couple of interesting threads developing, to which I would like to respond
before vacation (2 weeks of "listlessness"!)

Pete wrote: >> Spirituality.hmm.an awareness that the world around you is a
manifestation of divine goodness<<
Pete, if it were all good, that would be divine, but I'm not prepared to
give Him (or Her) credit for the good, but a pass on the evil.  And I don't
buy the "free will" finger-pointing exercise--whether it's ethnic cleansing
or a tsunami, the result is the same. He's either in or out, as far as I'm
concerned.  There ain't no Devil, there's just God when he's drunk, as Tom
Waits tells us.  I'm still waiting for him to put the Jack Daniels down, but
until then, I think we can make it by ourselves.

Before I get too tangential, it's actually in the juxtaposition of the
secular and the religious that I find RS' work very rich--and why I didn't
see the religious imagery etc. about which Lisa spoke as exclusionary
(though I understand how it can be).  A nun changing a tire in rush hour
traffic is still a pain in the ass, I don't care where she's going.  "The
well-insured horde, hell-bent on Saturday" is not only the best description
of NYC-area traffic (and probably that of any large metropolis), but
captures a bestial mentality, secular safety and divine retribution all in
one. You can't beat that with a stick.

And RG, I will buy "Tanglewood Tree," and perhaps "When I Go," but I'm a big
Leonard Cohen fan, and have in mind the perfectly written song.  We may have
to go toe-to-toe on "Kate and the Ghost of Lost Love"!

John McD

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Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:00:27 EDT
From: Rongrittz@aol.com
Subject: Re: [RS] More Annoying Thoughts

>> Dave Carter was a very good songwriter of a certain type and  range, and 
if he had lived another 10 or 20 years he would have been one of the  true 
greats. <<
 
One of the differences between Dave and many of other "Died Too Young"  
(sounds like something from a Chinese menu) crew is that he has Tracy Grammer to  
carry on the legacy by recording and performing his songs.  Similar, I'd  
think, to Gram Parsons, who would likely have passed from the public  consciousness 
- -- and perhaps not be considered a brilliant songwriter after all  these 
years -- without Emmylou Harris to carry the torch.
 
The flip side could always happen.  Dave could wind up being nothing  more 
than Eva Cassidy -- famous, mostly, for dying -- but I certainly hope  that's 
not the case.  And, perhaps, in another 10 or 20 years he WILL be  considered, 
in retrospect, one of the greats.
 
RG

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