From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V7 #112 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Friday, April 22 2005 Volume 07 : Number 112 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] RE: Famous Blue Raincoat [Jamie Younghans / John McDonnell ] [RS] New website ["Pam Pickering" ] Re: [RS] RE: Famous Blue Raincoat [Greg Sheridan ] Re: [RS] New website [Reinhard Liess ] [RS] RE: Famous Blue Raincoat--last one, I promise [Jamie Younghans / Joh] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:13:00 -0400 From: Jamie Younghans / John McDonnell Subject: [RS] RE: Famous Blue Raincoat Hey all, I agree, Bruce, that LC is an acquired taste, but so is Single Malt Scotch--so why mess around with Dewars! Seriously, and in all candor, my aversion to LC covers is subjectively pathological, or pathologically subjective, whichever describes it more accurately as completely capricious, because I'm sure if I heard a song with which I'm not familiar, covered by someone I like, I wouldn't have a problem. So Greg, since I've never thought that a cover could be a good intro to LC, I am the last one to recommend other artists (go right to the Lagavulin--"Songs of Leonard Cohen"), but it might be a way to go. Janet is also right--"Essential" is great, though I cannot vouch for the more recent work (Disc 2), only because it's less familiar to me. Janet, I can't believe you got the Al Pacino comparison. I had a poster of LC (that's how young I was), and my sisters used to say he looked like Al Pacino! (BTW--remember the days when folk singers had posters? I'm too old to think Jane's Addiction is "Classic Rock", but too young to think Letterman is iconoclastic, but I still remember the halcyon days when folk singers warranted a poster!) I have to say that I would love to hear RS do "FBR" because I have not heard (which is not to say that they do not exist) a singer/songwriter with the musical/lyrical heft in his/her own work to carry a song like that. I think he would also be a perfect fit for those other songs I mentioned before. And Greg, in retrospect, I don't think a(n) LC "newbie" who is an RS "veteran" is a real newbie--you could probably jump right into "Songs of Love and Hate" without a problem! (See if you can get it on iTunes--that way you can get just one or two other songs (I recommend "Last Year's Man," "Love Calls You By Your Name," and "Joan of Arc"). John McD. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:40:58 EDT From: JMoorehous@aol.com Subject: [RS] Raincoat/Nora <> I met Richard after one of his shows on the Sparrow's Point tour and asked him if he liked Leonard Cohen, since a couple of his songs reminded me of Cohen's Richard said he had discovered him via Jennifer Warnes' tribute LP (itself titled Famous Blue Raincoat, and subtitled Jenny Sings Lenny) and had written Nora as a conscious nod to Cohen. At that time, Richard hadn't heard one of Cohen's best LPs (IMO), Various Positions, so I sent him a copy via his record company, but have no idea if it ever made it into his hands. It's not a bad place to start for a neophyte, but of course doesn't capture the full range of Cohen's style. Joe Moorehouse ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:00:02 -0400 From: B Gallagher Subject: [RS] 1., B., Three., IV. Hey friendly list admin guy, As a writer of specifications and other boring dribble your 1., B., Three., IV. nomenclature really threw me. Thanks, I think I'll youse this system on my next masterpiece. :) I can hear John Lennon shout 1., B., Three., IV. "Well she was just..." BG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:38:41 -0700 From: "Pam Pickering" Subject: [RS] New website Hey - nice new website but where are the mailing lists archives? I have gotten into the habit of checking them out and now they are nowhere to be found! Pam Somewhere near Sacramento ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:52:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Sheridan Subject: Re: [RS] RE: Famous Blue Raincoat John, Bruce, Janet, and Joe(I think I've got everyone), Thanks for all of the recommendations for checking out Leonard Cohen. I think I'll do what John suggested in his last post, and download a sampling from each of the albums you recommended. Any details on favorite songs from these albums would be welcome. I was going to include a link to an old msg from Joe regarding the FBR/Nora connection, but Joe beat me to it, and posted the info again - thanks. By the way, I remember seeing some posts a while back from Gene about downloading folk tunes. I don't remember if these were all about iTunes. I'm going to check iTunes first, but I've struck out there on a few occasions. Anyone know if there are other sites to check if this happens. Thanks, Greg S. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:06:42 +0200 From: Reinhard Liess Subject: Re: [RS] New website The archives are still here: http://grassyhill.org/stax/shindell/ hth, Reinhard - --On Donnerstag, 21. April 2005 08:38 -0700 Pam Pickering wrote: > Hey - nice new website but where are the mailing lists archives? I have > gotten into the habit of checking them out and now they are nowhere to be > found! > > Pam > Somewhere near Sacramento ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:47:49 -0400 From: Jamie Younghans / John McDonnell Subject: [RS] RE: Famous Blue Raincoat--last one, I promise Hey all, Greg wrote: Thanks for all of the recommendations for checking out Leonard Cohen. I think I'll do what John suggested in his last post, and download a sampling from each of the albums you recommended. Any details on favorite songs from these albums would be welcome. One caveat Greg--do not--and I repeat, Do Not--download any songs from LC's album "Death of a Ladies Man." Anyone else with me on this? The album is so bad it's almost a parody. Phil Spector produced it, and when I say parody, I can't tell if it's a parody of Leonard Cohen or a parody of the Ronettes. Lyrically, it's not bad, but Spector's "Wall of Sound" with Leonard Cohen is like herring liqueur--two things that should not, under any configuration of the Universe, be combined. BTW, Joe, thanks for the info on the FBR-Nora connection. Listening to Nora again, the similarities jump out. John McD ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V7 #112 ***********************************