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shindell-list-digest     Sunday, February 6 2005     Volume 07 : Number 044



                               Today's Subjects:
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  Re: [RS] great review                   [Vanessa Wills <vcwills@gmail.com>]
  Re: [RS] Most overlooked RS song?       [Vanessa Wills <vcwills@gmail.com>]
  RE: [RS] Most overlooked RS song?   ["Thomas J. Huot" <tjhuot@comcast.net>]
  Re: [RS] Most overlooked RS song?  [Lisa Davis - home <lisa@sharinglaw.net]
  Re: [RS] Most overlooked RS song?       [Vanessa Wills <vcwills@gmail.com>]
  [RS] Leon Gieco            ["Sandra J. Smith" <anothersmith@earthlink.net>]
  [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V7 #43                       [DrTobs@aol.com]
  Re: [RS] Most overlooked RS song?       [Vanessa Wills <vcwills@gmail.com>]
  [RS] Weather with You (Crowded House)                  [OzWoman321@aol.com]
  [RS] I saw my youth and other songs overlooked  [Norman Johnson <njohnson@]
  Re: [RS] Most overlooked RS song  [Lisa Davis - home <lisa@sharinglaw.net>]
  [RS] Suggestions for ideal 4 selections!  [Kelly Thompson <starryknight@st]
  [RS] Folk selections           [Kelly Thompson <starryknight@starband.net>]
  Re: [RS] Suggestions for ideal 4 selections!            [Rongrittz@aol.com]

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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 14:53:16 -0500
From: Vanessa Wills <vcwills@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RS] great review

I just read a number of posts where folks are trying to heal divisions
on this list, and this is what you have to contribute? You have
deliberately crafted a post designed to create negative emotions in
your fellow listers. It has no other content. It offers nothing
constructive to the discussion. It's as though it would pain you to
see other people getting along peacefully. I don't understand you at
all. It is really sad and frightening that you actually thought it was
a good idea to send this message to the list.

- --V

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 09:09:42 -0800 (PST), Patience9@aol.com
<Patience9@aol.com> wrote:
<<I am afraid most  of the list just isn't reading it while we wait
for lost from the left to  realize they lost again.>>

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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 15:09:28 -0500
From: Vanessa Wills <vcwills@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RS] Most overlooked RS song?

RonA requested:
<<I would like to hear nominations for the most overlooked RS song.>>

"Are You Happy Now." That snappy little tune has been buried somewhere
in the back pages of the Richard Shindell songbook for far too long,
and it's well past time that song received its due praise. Every time
I see Richard play, I wonder, Will he play it this time?! Will the
crowd enjoy it?! And, if by some miracle he does dust off this
charming old ditty and bring it out into the light of day, I wonder
how many days, months, *years* it will be before I can dare hope to
hear it played again.

It's  a damn shame this obscure and lovely little number hasn't
received more critical attention. We old diehards can't get enough of
it, but sadly it's not managed to capture the popular imagination in
the way that "Money for Floods" and "By Now," always a toe-tappin'
crowd-pleaser, have done.

- --V

P.S. OK, it's not like I could resist!

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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 13:17:33 -0700
From: "Thomas J. Huot" <tjhuot@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: [RS] Most overlooked RS song?

My personal favorite is "You Again". I have probably listened to that song a
thousand times. Unfortunately, he apparently dropped it from his play list
some time ago. 

However, since I haven't had the opportunity to see him in over 4 years,
maybe he resurrects is occasionally? I was really disappointed it didn't end
up on Courier. But you can't have it all ...

_____________
Tom Huot
tjhuot@comcast.net

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Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 13:32:26 -0500
From: Lisa Davis - home <lisa@sharinglaw.net>
Subject: Re: [RS] Most overlooked RS song?

 >easily the most overlooked is "I Saw My Youth Today."   I guess I 
didn't think of it as overlooked because when the CD came out he played 
it at every show!  But it is a fabulous song.

TV light.  You will conclude correctly (probably have done so ages ago) 
that I have no memory.....

Lisa

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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 15:24:59 -0500
From: Vanessa Wills <vcwills@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RS] Most overlooked RS song?

I've actually heard him do it twice that I can recall. He did it at
Joe's Pub in November, and again in Pittsburgh on the 28th. I *think*
I heard him do it once before November, too, but I'm not sure. It's
definitely a concert rarity, though.

- --V


On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 13:17:33 -0700, Thomas J. Huot <tjhuot@comcast.net> wrote:
> My personal favorite is "You Again". <snip>
> However, since I haven't had the opportunity to see him in over 4 years,
> maybe he resurrects is occasionally?

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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 12:33:27 -0800
From: "Sandra J. Smith" <anothersmith@earthlink.net>
Subject: [RS] Leon Gieco

Speaking of folk singers from Argentina, has anyone hear listened to 
this man's music?   He sings one track on an album by Editus, and I 
like his voice.   If there are any Gieco fans here, can you recommend 
an album or two?

Thanks,
Sandy

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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 16:46:21 EST
From: DrTobs@aol.com
Subject: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V7 #43

For me,The Grocer's Broom wins, God I love that song!  


Toby

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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 18:53:58 -0500
From: Vanessa Wills <vcwills@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RS] Most overlooked RS song?

Oh! I think I heard him do it at the Makor years ago.

- --V


On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 15:24:59 -0500, Vanessa Wills <vcwills@gmail.com> wrote:
I *think*
> I heard him do it once before November, too, but I'm not sure.

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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 20:15:47 EST
From: OzWoman321@aol.com
Subject: [RS] Weather with You (Crowded House)

Hello, All -

Ron A. posted:

> I would like to hear nominations for the most overlooked RS song.  You 
> know, a song that you may have heard a thousand times, and suddenly it 
> registers, and you say "Wow.  Why didn't I pay attention to this before?".
> 
> I'll nominate two from Reunion Hill: "May" and "Smiling".

Well... I have been out all day and many have weighed in - however, if I had 
read this right away, my immediate response would have been...

:: everyone turns to look at Gene ::

I see Mr. Frey has already stated his opinion, and forecast, of weather 
patterns - I almost had him (and others) convinced of the song's appearance in a 
setlist a few years back but, alas, it was really only the proverbial snowball's 
chance in... well...  :-)

http://grassyhill.org/stax/shindell/index.cgi?i=1012201512_ozwoman3

Regarding Smiling, I realize I'm in the minority here... but the song has a 
special place in my heart - there have been some wonderfully in-depth, 
analytical posts in the past by those who have said this much better than I.  

However, upon first listen, and with each repeated, I feel the tune works on 
both a personal and a spiritual level - the expectations of structure and 
boundaries in a relationship segue to the warm embrace of unconditional love...

From "lord, I am not worthy" to amazing grace - indeed...  <3

Susan
http://www.heartsdesireconcerts.com
http://www.horseofadifferentcolorbooking.com


"I was all out of choices, but the woman of voices
She turned round the corner with music around her,
She gave me the language that keeps me alive..." ~ Dar Williams

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Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 20:19:55 -0500
From: Norman Johnson <njohnson@ent.umass.edu>
Subject: [RS] I saw my youth and other songs overlooked

Ron G:

>> For me, easily the most overlooked is "I Saw My Youth Today."  Always loved
 the way it can be about his youth (as in his child) or his OWN youth.<<

I think it's deliberately about both. There are lines that make it clear that his son is involved but it's also clear that he's also talking about his own youth.

Gene wrote:

>> The most overlooked Richard Shindell song is.....

The Weather.<<

If Gene didn't say that, I would wonder.

Adam:

>> Somewhere Near Patterson: Calling the Moon.  Ok so yeah its not an orginal but all the tracks I really like here are sung fairly often <<

I've never heard Richard sing Calling the Moon and while Dar wrote it, Richard has made it his own.

Tom:

>> My personal favorite is "You Again". I have probably listened to that song a
thousand times. <<

It is a beautiful haunting tune -- the second of the ghost trilogy (bookended by Memory of You and Nora). I also love the phrase "wide eyed and half awake".

But I think I am with Lisa with my choice of Tune for Nowhere. 

Norman

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Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 14:13:55 -0500
From: Lisa Davis - home <lisa@sharinglaw.net>
Subject: Re: [RS] Most overlooked RS song

I have "The Weather" on my personal "cheer-up" mix tape.  (yes, tape.) 
  Right there with Chumbawumba.  :)

Lisa

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Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 19:36:05 -0800
From: Kelly Thompson <starryknight@starband.net>
Subject: [RS] Suggestions for ideal 4 selections!

I'm doing a demo for a radio folk music show.  Imagine it's Thursday around
7 p.m.  What four songs would be representative of the best of folk, showing
the wonderful flavors and variety, at the same time fitting in with the time
of day...most folks having worked all day, perhaps just finished or
finishing dinner, maybe just having dinner.  The show goes from 7 to 9, but
only using four songs to represent the time frame.  I would love suggestions
for four songs, an excellent mix maybe representing folk at it's best.  I'm
just brainstorming here.  Something old, something new, etc.  Thanks for
your help in advance.

Kelly

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Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 19:37:39 -0800
From: Kelly Thompson <starryknight@starband.net>
Subject: [RS] Folk selections

P.S.  I need these suggestions ASAP, so please email them to me directly at
starryknight@starband.net, in addition to mailing them to the list.  Thanks
again!

Kelly

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Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 23:01:16 EST
From: Rongrittz@aol.com
Subject: Re: [RS] Suggestions for ideal 4 selections!

>> What four songs would be representative of the best of folk, showing the 
wonderful flavors and variety, at the same time fitting in with the time of 
day...most folks having worked all day, perhaps just finished or finishing 
dinner, maybe just having dinner. <<

Coincidentally (given our other conversation) Richard's "The Weather" would 
work nicely:

Here's to all you Moms and Dads
Who hold it all together 
Heaven knows you love your kids
You might even love each other 
You work all day, you sleep all night
And find an hour for dinner
And time's too short to sit and whine
About all this dreary weather 

RG

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