From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V6 #299 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Thursday, December 2 2004 Volume 06 : Number 299 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Re: big influences [Tom Neff ] [RS] Group W Bench [Patience9@aol.com] Re: Re: [RS] Hey Che [rfoxwell@wso.williams.edu] [RS] Birks [Patience9@aol.com] [RS] make love is great [Patience9@aol.com] [RS] fellings, oh feelings [Patience9@aol.com] [RS] Alice's Restaurant (Eat for Two - 10,000 Maniacs) [OzWoman321@aol.co] [RS] Che Guevara T-Shirts Now Available ["scott shindell" ] [RS] Sorry for the premature posting!!! [Christy Thomas Subject: [RS] Re: big influences - --On Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:22 AM -0600 j.lanza@verizon.net wrote: > Disconnecting this from Vanessa or anyone else in particular, as a person > who knows and loves the "older" folks artists, I find it surprising that > so many fans of Richard, Dar, Lucy and many other contemporary artists > don't know the "old guys". People like Arlo, Tom Rush, Eric Andersen, > Tom Paxton, etc. Not only were/are they great, but they are big > influences on the next generation. The problem is that word of mouth (via ear or Net), which is how so many fans discover these artists, is not very conducive to institutional memory. The greats you name still have lousy retail distribution and do not share the circuit with our contemporary generation except at a few anchor venues. So there is no way, unless the artists and some of the rest of us take the trouble to spread the word ourselves, that they will hear about them enough to know that they're worth listening to. That's what radio is/was good for, but folk radio is so hard to get in so many places across the continent. Which is why I started Grassy Hill Radio five years ago - to get people listening to people they *don't* know next to people they *do* know. Everyone on this list should listen to their local folk radio show(s) if they possibly can, and if you don't have one, http://radio.grassyhill.org is always there. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 11:42:00 EST From: Patience9@aol.com Subject: [RS] Group W Bench It is a head shop run by Ralph a nearly 60 yr old exhippy...lol Someone I knew when I was about 12 yrs old. OK, I'll bite: what the heck is Group W Bench? :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 11:43:32 -0500 From: rfoxwell@wso.williams.edu Subject: Re: Re: [RS] Hey Che Quoting j.lanza@verizon.net: > Disconnecting this from Vanessa or anyone else in particular, as a person who > knows and loves the "older" folks artists, I find it surprising that so many > fans of Richard, Dar, Lucy and many other contemporary artists don't know the > "old guys". People like Arlo, Tom Rush, Eric Andersen, Tom Paxton, etc. Not > only were/are they great, but they are big influences on the next > generation. Speaking for myself, there is a very different sound and feel between what I consider "modern folk" and the kind of folk that my parents grew up with. I'm not saying that there *is* any great difference--I don't feel qualified to comment on that--just that it sounds different to me. Personal-history-wise, I grew up listening to a pretty eclectic blend of folk music, country-rock, and "other stuff". Gordon Lightfoot and Al Stewart were prominent among the folk I grew up with, as were Poco and The Eagles of the country-rock genre. "Other stuff" includes The Moody Blues, Jimmy Buffett, Emmylou, and other stuff. I suppose Gordon Lightfoot counts as one of the older legends, but other than him, I really only got into the artists named in the post above through listening to the more modern material. Hell, I couldn't even name a single Dylan tune until I was well into college, and I had never even heard of Leonard Cohen. (Now, of course, I adore both.) Gordon will always hold a special place in my heart. The first song I can ever remember hearing--not counting Kenny Loggins's Winnie the Pooh song (which still makes me cry every time)--is "Ribbon of Darkness". - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 11:46:12 EST From: Patience9@aol.com Subject: [RS] Birks Why not wear them everyday like me. What are you a member of the establishment??? Probably dont' smoke anymore either....lol But I will pull those Birks out of storage, just for you! ;) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 11:49:47 EST From: Patience9@aol.com Subject: [RS] make love is great Are you into being naked as often as possible like I am???? but I still believe in Make love, not war. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 12:06:23 EST From: Patience9@aol.com Subject: [RS] fellings, oh feelings That is how I feel about Kerry NO...I'm not totally against Bush...though i am TOTALLY against his being president. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 12:17:50 EST From: OzWoman321@aol.com Subject: [RS] Alice's Restaurant (Eat for Two - 10,000 Maniacs) Hello, All - Isabel posted: > Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:39:28 -0500 > From: "Isabel Frey" > Subject: [RS] If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud! > > As part of our effort to provide a proper upbringing for our two children, > Gene and I made them listen to Alice's Restaurant on the radio every > Thanksgiving at noon. We still do. If you don't know the song (gasp!), you > > can find the lyrics on line but reading them just doesn't do the song > justice. A few years ago Gene and I had the pleasure of seeing Arlo perform > > the Massacree Revisited, with full orchestration and five part harmony. I > haven't heard the recorded version of this update to the original song, but > the live version was great. If it's not already, you should definitely make > > Alice's Restaurant part of your Thanksgiving tradition. And then make a > pilgrimage to Stockbridge, Mass. But don't litter. > > Isabel I too always made a point to listen to Alice's Restaurant with my sister (and my children... depending on their mood and accessibility) on Thanksgiving evening, after "the meal was served, hands were held and prayers were said" - however, the last six years have found me engaged in an additional ritual... attending the Lumpy Sue (no, it's not named after me!) Acoustic Music Festival the day after Thanksgiving... http://www.lumpysue.org/ The small but sweet gathering starts at 11 a.m. and goes until sunset... and hundreds of people bring all sorts of picnic food to share - the event is free but raffle tickets are sold to benefit Habitat for Humanity. The musicians (national and local) do 30 - 45 minute sets and the weather is always perfect (really!) - for me, the piece de resistance is the last act, Robert "Romo" Miller, who performs a delightful rendition of Arlo's classic... and of course we all sing the chorus when it comes around (excepting Alice... :-) Susan http://www.heartsdesireconcerts.com http://www.horseofadifferentcolorbooking.com "and the blessings were like poets that we never find time to know but when time stopped I found the place where the poets go..." ~ Dar Williams ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 12:17:58 -0500 From: "scott shindell" Subject: [RS] Che Guevara T-Shirts Now Available Since I don't have a digital camera, picture this: A bright red, 100% cotton short-sleeve t-shirt in L, XL, and XXL. On the front, across the, uhm, intimate part of your chest, bold black letters spell out "Che Guevara T-shirt" in the same type font used on Somewhere Near Paterson. Bold but not overbearing. On the back you'll find Richard's URL in small black letters. Very tasteful. Yours for just $15.00. I think paying by check might be best at this point, so send your order to me at the address below and I'll get them right out. Thanks for your support. Scott Scott Shindell 8932 Griffin Way Pikesville, MD 21208-1423 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 12:27:15 -0500 From: B Gallagher Subject: [RS] Big Influence - Eric Anderson Eric Anderson will be appearing this Sunday, December 5, 2:00 PM at the University Cafi at SUNY Stony Brook. This show is sold out. But, I may be working the door and if you whisper the secret codeword you can sit at my table. Any Listers going? There is talk of a second, evening show, but no confirmation as of yet. < Everyone on this list should listen to their local folk radio show(s) if they possibly can, and if you don't have one, http://radio.grassyhill.org is always there. > Yes, thanks Tom, Grassy Hill is a fine station. http://radio.grassyhill.org Bart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 12:40:53 -0500 From: "scott shindell" Subject: [RS] Nashville Gig I checked on that 1/31 Nashville gig mentioned earlier, and hear's what Richard's manager said: "a date contemplated but not confirmed." If it is confirmed I'll let you know. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 09:54:06 -0800 (PST) From: Christy Thomas Subject: [RS] Sorry for the premature posting!!! I apologize for getting everyone's hopes up for a non-confirmed date. I got the info from Ellis Paul's website...which I guess means he'll be there 1/31 - MAYBE with Richard... even though I can't go...I sure hope it happens...and it'd be great if Ellis or Richard recorded it...i know I'd PAY to hear it on CD!!!! maybe something that could be used to raise some money for charity...?... i'm just wishing here.... From: "scott shindell" Date: Thu Dec 2 12:40:53 2004 Subj: Nashville Gig I checked on that 1/31 Nashville gig mentioned earlier, and hear's what Richard's manager said: "a date contemplated but not confirmed." If it is confirmed I'll let you know. Scott __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V6 #299 ***********************************