From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V6 #260 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Saturday, November 13 2004 Volume 06 : Number 260 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [RS] Thank you, Vanessa! [Lisa Davis - home ] [RS] Richard sighting in Chicago ["Richard W. Samsel" ] Re: [RS] Richard sighting in Chicago [Rongrittz@aol.com] Re: [RS] Richard sighting in Chicago [Vanessa Wills ] Re: [RS] Richard sighting in Chicago ["Thomas J. Huot" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 00:12:28 -0500 From: Lisa Davis - home Subject: Re: [RS] Thank you, Vanessa! I'm on/have been on a couple of other lists that stuck religiously :) to the topic, The Artist, of which everyone is a Fan, and jeez does it get boring. Provided the people on the list are not insulting each other, it is usually more interesting to have a bunch of people who share a common interest talk about assorted topics with some loose connection to the shared interest, than a deadly drone of trivia about someone's (even Richard's) every moment. This too is a boring and oft-repeated comment, I guess. But clearly, if Richard is going to go singing "The Big Muddy" one would be hard-pressed to say politics/war isn't relevant to Richard. Lisa Davis, glad to have returned from a long absence...... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 16:49:37 -0600 From: "Richard W. Samsel" Subject: [RS] Richard sighting in Chicago I saw Richard at the Old Town School in Chicago, Friday night. Eliza opened with a 45 minute set, and Richard joined her on a couple of songs at the end of her set; I'd never seen her live before, but I'd definitely go out of my way to see her again. I don't know enough of her songs yet to give a set list for her. Radoslav Lorkovic joined Richard for his set, mostly on piano, and the two of them seemed to be having a good time on stage. On one of the songs they had to start it about 4 times before they could agree on what key to play it in; I wasn't sure if Rad was just having a bit of fun with Richard. I've never seen Rad before, and I thought he was great on most of the songs. Once or twice, he seemed to be playing solos or improvisations that didn't fit. Overall it was a great concert in a theater with only a few hundred seats. Richard and Rad did one set, and Richard played a single encore with Eliza: Fennario Big Muddy Che Guevara T Shirt Cancillon Sencilla There goes Mavis Island Arrowhead Mary Magdalene Fishing Cold Missouri Water Famous Blue Raincoat AYHN Courier Transit - ----- America Richard translated a lot of Cancillon Sencilla, but refused to translate the mushy bits. He gave an unexpectedly complete and literal walk-through of what was happening in Che Guevara T-Shirt, before singing it, making me think he's had a lot of questions on it. They played Arrowhead quite fast, with Rad on what seemed to be a small accordion, doing a solo prior to the last verse. I didn't notice any errors in the Arrowhead lyrics, though he double-started the last verse after the audience had applauded too long for Rad's solo. Fishing and Cold Missouri water sounded great, though he did quite a bit of trouble with the lyrics for Fishing, and had to refer to a printout of CWM once in the middle. This was the first time I've heard him play "Famous Blue Raincoat"; I had been looking forward to it, and it was (not surprisingly) about the best version of it I've ever heard. He weighed in fairly explicitly on politics - poking fun at Republicans who have walked out on his concert over some of the things he's said. Loosely paraphrasing (to keep a "G" rating): Given the content his songs, it should be pretty obvious where he stands, so why would anyone expect him to remain silent about politics at a folk concert? If people have signed up for email related to him, why would they expect politics to be off limits in the discussions? The latter point struck me as a fairly clear nod to recent discussions of this group. I was kind of expecting "Scalia" or "Cheney," but the verdict is "Gonzalez Republicans." Eliza's and Richard's voices were beautiful in the harmonies (and dissonance) in America; I'd love to hear them sing more together. - -- Dick Samsel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 18:35:35 -0500 From: B Gallagher Subject: [RS] Transit Chris wrote: "Ashcroft Republicans" although it seemed to me he hesitated a bit. Actually, he always seems to hesitate with this line. At least, he has done so every time I've seen him play it over the last few years. Dunno if he only remembers to put it in at the last second every time, or if he pauses for effect to reward those who are listening for "Reagan Republicans", or what. - --- Yeah, I feel it's for effect. At the Oct 30 IMAC show, RS flubbed the start of the return to Sister Maria stanza and then sang, rather sinisterly, "Sister Maria tightened the bolts of DESPAIR." I don't know how many people caught it, but it was perfect. Asscroft is gone, Gonzales at three syllables is a stretch, but RS could make it work if Mr. Gonzales proves to be anything like his predecessor. Or, Asscroft Republicans can remain; the John Ashcroft legacy if sure to last for some time to come. Bart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 19:27:09 EST From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] Richard sighting in Chicago >> I wasn't sure if Rad was just having a bit of fun with Richard. I've never seen Rad before, and I thought he was great on most of the songs. Once or twice, he seemed to be playing solos or improvisations that didn't fit. << I know Richard and Rad are good friends, but in my experience, Rad hurts more songs than he helps. Accordian is a COLOR instrument, great for touches and fills, and he tends to play the damn thing wall-to-wall in many songs. And his piano riffs are the same from song to song, and often times (to the "didn't fit" point Dick made above) he's playing the song like he's hearing it for the first time. I much prefer Richard either solo or with a full band, never just him and Rad. RG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 19:37:28 -0500 From: Vanessa Wills Subject: Re: [RS] Richard sighting in Chicago Does anyone know whether Rad will be joining Richard on other shows on this tour? Like, say, the shows in NYC and Philly? And the one in Cleveland? :-/ Leaving everyone to guess what my feelings are on the subject of Rad's musicianship, Vanessa On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 16:49:37 -0600, Richard W. Samsel wrote: > Radoslav Lorkovic joined Richard for his set, mostly on piano, > and the two of them seemed to be having a good time on stage. On > one of the songs they had to start it about 4 times before they > could agree on what key to play it in; I wasn't sure if Rad was > just having a bit of fun with Richard. I've never seen Rad > before, and I thought he was great on most of the songs. Once > or twice, he seemed to be playing solos or improvisations that > didn't fit. Overall it was a great concert in a theater with > only a few hundred seats. - -- "If we're to be damned, let's be damned for what we truly are." --Captain Jean-Luc Picard ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 18:13:44 -0700 From: "Thomas J. Huot" Subject: Re: [RS] Richard sighting in Chicago I think he is a bit goofy, but Richard seems to enjoy his company so I guess it's fine with me. The funny time was when I saw him several years ago, and it was apparently the first time Lucy had actually performed with the two of them. She was speechless! Anyway, he does add a bit of color to the mix, you can't deny that! - -- Tom Huot tjhuot@comcast.net - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vanessa Wills" To: Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [RS] Richard sighting in Chicago > Does anyone know whether Rad will be joining Richard on other shows on > this tour? Like, say, the shows in NYC and Philly? And the one in > Cleveland? :-/ > > Leaving everyone to guess what my feelings are on the subject of Rad's > musicianship, > Vanessa > > > On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 16:49:37 -0600, Richard W. Samsel > wrote: > >> Radoslav Lorkovic joined Richard for his set, mostly on piano, >> and the two of them seemed to be having a good time on stage. On >> one of the songs they had to start it about 4 times before they >> could agree on what key to play it in; I wasn't sure if Rad was >> just having a bit of fun with Richard. I've never seen Rad >> before, and I thought he was great on most of the songs. Once >> or twice, he seemed to be playing solos or improvisations that >> didn't fit. Overall it was a great concert in a theater with >> only a few hundred seats. > > > -- > "If we're to be damned, let's be damned for what we truly are." > --Captain Jean-Luc Picard ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 21:30:31 -0500 From: joe Subject: Re: [RS] Richard sighting in Chicago I was looking forward to seeing Eliza Gilkyson in concert for the first time in Cleveland, but now have found out the schedule has been changed. She's out and Rachel Davis is in for the Cleveland show. In anticipation of her show I picked up Eliza's latest cd _Land of Milk and Honey_ and was pleasantly surprised. For those of you who been to recent shows on this tour, is Richard open to taking requests? - joe Richard W. Samsel wrote: >I saw Richard at the Old Town School in Chicago, Friday night. >Eliza opened with a 45 minute set, and Richard joined her on a >couple of songs at the end of her set; I'd never seen her live >before, but I'd definitely go out of my way to see her again. I >don't know enough of her songs yet to give a set list for her. >Radoslav Lorkovic joined Richard for his set, mostly on piano, >and the two of them seemed to be having a good time on stage. On >one of the songs they had to start it about 4 times before they >could agree on what key to play it in; I wasn't sure if Rad was >just having a bit of fun with Richard. I've never seen Rad >before, and I thought he was great on most of the songs. Once >or twice, he seemed to be playing solos or improvisations that >didn't fit. Overall it was a great concert in a theater with >only a few hundred seats. > >-- Dick Samsel ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V6 #260 ***********************************