From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V6 #168 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Tuesday, August 24 2004 Volume 06 : Number 168 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] XPN, folk music, & rambling [Ron Alderfer ] Re: [RS] Folk content on radio [Elizabeth ] Re: [RS] Vuelta Review [adam plunkett ] [RS] I Cried ["Sarah Smith" ] Re: [RS] Folk content on radio [adam plunkett ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 18:36:07 -0400 From: Ron Alderfer Subject: [RS] XPN, folk music, & rambling My 2 cents on some of the recent postings.... I am in XPN's radio circle, and although they are still far and away my favorite "on air" station, I do not listen nearly as much as I used to. And Adam may find this amusing, because all day at work I have WFUV on my computer - because they are closer to what XPN used to be for me. (I also listen to WUMB in Boston.) I suppose this "drifting" is inevitable, as I agree with "rfoxwell" that folk music does loosely follow generational boundries. Some artists and songs remain somewhat timeless, but styles do change. That's why people have record and CD collections - to maintain their generational loves as the musical tides wash on. I also think that we who have followed folk music in the last decade or two, have been blessed to witness a very fine crop indeed of singer-songwriters. Ron A PS - Deb, I will be sending my Top 10 list tonight!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:38:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Elizabeth Subject: Re: [RS] Folk content on radio - --- rfoxwell@wso.williams.edu wrote: > This strikes right to the heart of an > interesting point about the appeal of > "folk music", and how it is shaped or defined > by listeners from different generations. There definitely is some kind of generational issue at work. There is no folk station (hah!) where I live, but I've been listening to WFUV since I got DSl a couple of months ago, and I've been really enjoying the variety of music played on the station. It seems to me that they *do* play blues and 60's folk in with the newer music. The only folk I can hear on the radio locally is in two shows they play on the local NPR affiliate. One is a local show that mixes folk, blues, country, bluegrass, etc, etc, the other is Folk Sampler. (They don't even have World Cafe!) Both shows are hosted by middle-aged men. I have nothing against middle-aged men, but I would love to have some kind of radio show that I can listen to locally that's aimed at *my* demographic (ie women in their 20's & 30's) other than the schmaltzy "light and contemporary" station. The local stations I listen to are the hard rock/alt rock stations, and those are very clearly aimed at young guys. I've written to the guy who does the local NPR station show I mentioned above and asked him to play Richard Shindell, but he's never heard of him, though he does occasionally play Dar & Lucy. Very rarely even that, though. Most of the folk he plays is older, and I find that very frustrating. A new indie radio station is starting up here that is much more promising. They're currently on the web, with lots of diverse programming: http://www.wrir.org > I'm still rambling. Sorry. I'm all mixed up > from suddenly being closer to 30 > than to 20.... LOL I'm continually obsessing about the fact that I turn 30 in, oh, seven weeks. Yikes! But I just got home with my copy of Vuelta, but I can think about that for a while instead. Elizabeth ===== ~~~ "If the city was dreaming," he told me, "then the city is asleep. And I do not fear cities sleeping, stretched out unconscious around their rivers and estuaries, like cats in the moonlight. Sleeping cities are tame and harmless things. What I fear," he said, "is that one day the cities will waken. That one day the cities will rise." - --Neil Gaiman ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 16:15:05 -0700 (PDT) From: adam plunkett Subject: Re: [RS] Vuelta Review Well since I cant get on the radio, I will post a review of sorts here. :) UNBELIVABLE album! First, there isn't a wek or mediocre track on the whole album...and I have never felt that before after the first few listens to past Richard albums. (3 listens since I bought it at 2 pm.) Secondly, his acoutsic guitar is crisp, clear, and trhe melodies it plays are very beautiful. And Puente Celeste is full of great musicians. I also like how the influenmce is definietly there(and adds so much to many tracks) but it recorded in a way that complements Richard but dopesnt overshawdow him. I would have been dissipointed if it sounded like the Buena Vista Social Club.... "Fenario" is a great opening track...full of energy and a great song...much more impressive on album with the band than the one time I heard it live. "Big Muddy" goes very nice with it....and it's one great cover of one of my favorite songs. Many recent [protest songs are too heavy handed for my taste, but this Seeger tune is one hell of a song. The album gets slower for "The Island" and "Hazel's House" and both are very nice and have beautiful guitar parts. "Che Guevera Shirt" blew me away the one time I heard it live and it did on album too. the spanish number is very pretty. "There Goes mavis" I just love....the band is perfect for it. "So Says the Whipporell" also wonderful. I think Che, Mavis, and Whipporell rank up there are three of his better songs. I like "Last Fare of the Day" just not the way otehrs do but a good track and "Gray Green" is a very nice closer. So I love it all ways possible! Time to listen number four.... "ptpowerlists@juno.com" wrote: I'll be doing a review (actually, more like discussing Richard and the record) on the local NPR station (http://wkar.org) on Friday morning. I think that the spot will run at about 7:35am. I'll be going in tomorrow or Thursday to record the interview, so I can give details later. I did this a couple of months ago for Lori McKenna's new CD... it's sort of a "Music Under The Radar" thing. Pat ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! "ptpowerlists@juno.com" wrote:I'll be doing a review (actually, more like discussing Richard and the record) on the local NPR station (http://wkar.org) on Friday morning. I think that the spot will run at about 7:35am. I'll be going in tomorrow or Thursday to record the interview, so I can give details later. I did this a couple of months ago for Lori McKenna's new CD... it's sort of a "Music Under The Radar" thing. Pat ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:30:33 -0400 From: "Sarah Smith" Subject: [RS] I Cried I heard Vuelta for the first time today and I cried....I cried at the sound of something so beautiful that it was overwhelming. Never would I have expected anything on this earth to be perfect, today I realized that happily, I was mistaken. _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 16:46:12 -0700 (PDT) From: adam plunkett Subject: Re: [RS] Folk content on radio rfoxwell@wso.williams.edu wrote: This strikes right to the heart of an interesting point about the appeal of "folk music", and how it is shaped or defined by listeners from different generations. I think I'm correct in saying that I'm younger than most of the others on this list--I just had my 26th birthday two weeks ago--so I bring a different perspective to the question "what constitutes folk, and what should be played by 'folk' stations?". I too am younger than most here (24...I know I sound like an old man!). You are very correct. I wasn't really criticizing FUV, just stating my tastes are no longer played. (WUMB does play what I like sometimes. Many times I stick to my CD's and mp3's.) I understand the evolving of genres of music and that of artists and that indie stations have to play what people want to hear. I am not one of those folk is Woody Guthrie and thats it type of people. :) I like all types of folk....and I will say that it does bothers me that whole apsects of folk music are ignored(international folk, Cajun, Zydeco,acoustic blues) but hey, bluegrass and mountain music are in right now which is great in my mind. :) I guess one could lament the homogenization of folk music (as these radio stations define it, at least), but one could also celebrate it. And, hell, my friends are always trying to convert me to more mainstream music...and if WFUV leads me to a greater appreciate of such music, that's also a good thing. :-) It's a great thing....the best muscians blend genres. My favorite musician is Kelly Joe Phelps. he has done blues, he has done jazz, he has done the singer-songerwriter thing. I embrace whatever he does - as he does everything amazingly well - and just enjoy the ride. Others get upset when he doesnt do what they want. I think it's great Shindell recorded with an international band for the same reasons. I am now rambling too...but folk music really can be anything which is great. Bela Fleck and Edgar Meyer's "Music for Two" is classical music which is cello and banjo and has opened my eyes to great classical music and I bought only because of my love for Bela's playing. Folk music, in whatever form, is a good thing. I just personally find the folk-rock stuff that is so popular bland. Give me acoustic intruments any day. Adam Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V6 #168 ***********************************