From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V6 #167 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Tuesday, August 24 2004 Volume 06 : Number 167 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V6 #166 [DrTobs@aol.com] Re: [RS] WXPN & You [adam plunkett ] [RS] Vuelta Review ["ptpowerlists@juno.com" ] Re: [RS] Folk content on radio [rfoxwell@wso.williams.edu] [RS] Re: WXPN & You ["Michael Larkin" ] Re: [RS] Folk content on radio [Tom Neff ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 06:54:39 -0400 From: DrTobs@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V6 #166 I agree, Deb-I'm a big XPN supporter, and have been for almost 15 years, but recently they have drifted. The last pledge I made they asked for comments and I said just that, and play more Richard! I let them know that, every chance I get. On a different note, I was in New Orleans last week and went into a "Voodoo" store and found a Che Gueverra (sp?) t-shirt! Can't wait to wear it when Richard plays here in November :) Anxiously watching my mailbox for Vuelta... Toby ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 06:02:52 -0700 (PDT) From: adam plunkett Subject: Re: [RS] WXPN & You A similar thing, in my opinion, has happened to WFUV in NYC. Years ago, their CityFolk was so much different than it has become today. (Though, they are huge supporters still of Richard Shindell which gives them some bonus points!) I remember in the late 90's they played singer-songwriters, they played blues, they played 60's folk, they played international folk. Now, when I listen, so much of it - to my ears - sounds like bland half folk/half rock bands with pretentious lyrics. I always thought it was unfortanate they went that dirtection with their playlists. Their first member CD, which is from the peroid I refer to, is an amazing disc. But, like I said, they do support Richard which is a very good thing! I heard "Big Muddy" on UMB this morning here in Boston and plan to pick up the album on my lunch break. Deb Woodell wrote: Apologies for cross-posts: To mark their move into new digs, WXPN in Philadelphia (www.xpn.org) is asking listeners to send in their top 10 songs of all time, for compilation of the top 885 songs of all time, which will air in October. Interesting enough, a work colleague and I were just discussing the other day how WXPN seems to be shifting a bit, maybe becoming "younger" in its playlist, and no longer has folks like Dar, Richard, Lucy, Nields, etc., in heavy rotation. They all but ignored Lucy's newest cd and seemed only slightly more interested in the latest from Dar and Richard. It's not really that I dislike what they do play, it's just that they play less of some of my faves -- and yours, too. To that end, I think it might be a wakeup call to them if there is heavy turnout at the polls for some of these folks. I hate to think those artists are becoming irrelevant to WXPN, because they certainly are not irrelevant to me. Deb ===== This I have learned: Because we can, we must try to change the world -- fully, wisely, restlessly. -- Rudy Nemser == Life is such a changing art. -- Dar Williams == _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 18:59:05 GMT From: "ptpowerlists@juno.com" Subject: [RS] Vuelta Review I'll be doing a review (actually, more like discussing Richard and the record) on the local NPR station (http://wkar.org) on Friday morning. I think that the spot will run at about 7:35am. I'll be going in tomorrow or Thursday to record the interview, so I can give details later. I did this a couple of months ago for Lori McKenna's new CD... it's sort of a "Music Under The Radar" thing. Pat ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 10:46:18 -0400 From: rfoxwell@wso.williams.edu Subject: Re: [RS] Folk content on radio Quoting adam plunkett : > A similar thing, in my opinion, has happened to WFUV in NYC. Years ago, > their CityFolk was so much different than it has become today. (Though, they > are huge supporters still of Richard Shindell which gives them some bonus > points!) I remember in the late 90's they played singer-songwriters, they > played blues, they played 60's folk, they played international folk. Now, > when I listen, so much of it - to my ears - sounds like bland half folk/half > rock bands with pretentious lyrics. I always thought it was unfortanate they > went that dirtection with their playlists. This strikes right to the heart of an interesting point about the appeal of "folk music", and how it is shaped or defined by listeners from different generations. I think I'm correct in saying that I'm younger than most of the others on this list--I just had my 26th birthday two weeks ago--so I bring a different perspective to the question "what constitutes folk, and what should be played by 'folk' stations?". My perspective isn't so much that of a youngster who prefers a dose of rock with his folk, because I really don't; my preferred brand of folk aligns pretty well with "standard" folk...although many would say there IS no such thing, of course. (I'd agree with them.) Rather, my perspective is that of a youngster who is constantly trying to get his friends to appreciate folk, dragging them along to concerts in Boston and introducing them to new music. I think it's fair to say that folk stations, especially public radio stations such as WFUV, are concerned with attracting new listeners as well as satisfying fans of "standard" folk. Many of my peers have become interested in folk by identifying elements of more familiar music in it, rock being predominant among such elements. I have several friends who have started listening to folk after hearing that "folk rocker" whom I like (Ellis Paul...don't quite see his music as rock, but the observation has been made several times), or that "blues folk guy" (Jeffrey Foucault), etc. (Bad examples, since these are both quality folk artists, but it isn't hard to imagine the same happening with those pretentious half-rock half-folk bands; if such outfits lead the listener to gems like Richard, that's a good thing.) I guess one could lament the homogenization of folk music (as these radio stations define it, at least), but one could also celebrate it. And, hell, my friends are always trying to convert me to more mainstream music...and if WFUV leads me to a greater appreciate of such music, that's also a good thing. :-) Sorry, I know I'm rambling. I'm just trying to say that the blending of pure folk with other styles isn't necessary a wholly bad thing, despite folk fans like us having to put up with "folk pretenders". Ugh, but I don't even like using that label; folk music casts such a wide net, I don't feel comfortable excluding others from it just because their music isn't what would traditionally be called folk. I'm still rambling. Sorry. I'm all mixed up from suddenly being closer to 30 than to 20.... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:33:22 -0400 From: "Michael Larkin" Subject: [RS] Re: WXPN & You If I was still at 'XPN, this wouldn't be happening! Peace, Michael p.s. been listening to Vuelta all day today- incredible!!! > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:57:55 -0700 (PDT) > From: Deb Woodell > Subject: [RS] WXPN & You > > Apologies for cross-posts: > To mark their move into new digs, WXPN in > Philadelphia (www.xpn.org) is asking listeners to send > in their top 10 songs of all time, for compilation of > the top 885 songs of all time, which will air in > October. > Interesting enough, a work colleague and I were just > discussing the other day how WXPN seems to be shifting > a bit, maybe becoming "younger" in its playlist, and > no longer has folks like Dar, Richard, Lucy, Nields, > etc., in heavy rotation. They all but ignored Lucy's > newest cd and seemed only slightly more interested in > the latest from Dar and Richard. It's not really that > I dislike what they do play, it's just that they play > less of some of my faves -- and yours, too. > To that end, I think it might be a wakeup call to > them if there is heavy turnout at the polls for some > of these folks. I hate to think those artists are > becoming irrelevant to WXPN, because they certainly > are not irrelevant to me. > Deb > > > ===== > This I have learned: Because we can, we must try to change the world -- fully, wisely, restlessly. -- Rudy Nemser > == > Life is such a changing art. -- Dar Williams > == > > > > _______________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush > > ------------------------------ > > End of shindell-list-digest V6 #166 > *********************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 17:46:35 -0400 From: Tom Neff Subject: Re: [RS] Folk content on radio Another option for folks who want an alternative to their local stations is Grassy Hill Radio, http://radio.grassyhill.org . We've been online since 1999 and we've been a preset on iTunes (under Americana) since it first came out. You get 100% acoustic music, 24x7, with a massive playlist and excellent sound quality at 56K. No fee, no ads, just music. ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V6 #167 ***********************************