From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V6 #70 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Saturday, April 3 2004 Volume 06 : Number 070 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Full Circle ["Gene Frey" ] [RS] Oxford show and some chatter ["Amy Lynn Cocuzza" ] [RS] Leonard Cohen and Joni Mitchell [Bobdog25nj@aol.com] [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V6 #66 [Mary Mccarthy ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 14:08:51 -0500 From: "Gene Frey" Subject: [RS] Full Circle Hey you guys, While looking into the All Music Guide, I noticed something that kind of ties all of this together - A singer who covered 'Suzanne' covered 'Money For Floods' on the same CD. His name is Bob Rowe, and he is a singer-songwriter who, according to his web site, uses his music primarily to support religious charitable causes that he is involved with. The primary cause is Renaissance Enterprises, which provides music and arts programs for nursing homes and elder care facilities. The CD in question is called Tom Thumb's Blues - A Tribute to Judy Collins. You can find it here: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bobrowe if you want to check it out. To me, it sounds vaguely Shatneresque. He seems like a nice guy and all, but I think I'll pass. Gene F. _________________________________________________________________ Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new MSN Toolbar  FREE! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 14:51:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Amy Lynn Cocuzza" Subject: [RS] Oxford show and some chatter Hiya, I'm one of those fans who generally just lurks, but I've been meaning to post some comments about the show in Oxford, NY last Sunday. For those of you who are wondering, Oxford is in central NY somewhere between Oneonta and East Nowhere. The Night Eagle Cafe is a fabulous folk music venue gem - great artists, great atmosphere, great space that only seats about 40...! I hit this show instead of the Paramount Center since I'm a poverty-stricken grad student and this was more in my neck of the woods. And although I'm disappointed to have missed such a dynamite show (even Richard said it was great!), it was exciting to see him in such an intimate setting. Although I'd kill to hear Lucy's harmonies on Last Fare. Pout. He did two sets - the usual suspects. 1st set: Mavis (the "maybe title track"??) Che G Cancion Fenario Muddy Hazel Whipporwill 2nd set: Summer Wind Arrowhead Reunion Hill Iron Gate (back up to studio-tempo) Next Best Western Wisteria Fishing AYHN Last Fare Encore: America It was an interesting crowd - there were clearly other dedicated fans there, but there was a sizable representation of "Oh, how splendid! There's a show in town tonight" types as well. I think we have some new converts now. The best Richard-schtick bits of the night involved his incessant tuning. I'm always impressed by his impecable ear, but he was having a harder time than normal switching from one tuning to the next. He finally requested that his monitors be shut off, with lots of comments like "If I'm going to play out of tune, I don't want to have to hear it. You're stuck!" He also had some great new bits - some stories about his in-laws, a joke about Khruschev, Brezhnev, and Stalin on a broken-down train... It's kind of funny that he played Famous Blue Raincoat at Joe's Pub, because we chatted about Leonard Cohen after the show. I've been a huge LC fan since I was about 10 (much to my parents' chagrin) so we compared notes about favorite songs, favorite covers, theories that LC and Barry White are the same person.... Richard rather modestly mentioned that he does the best FBR cover of anyone in the world, with the possible exception of Jennifer Warnes. He also confessed that he doesn't think much of Tori's version. John, I asked him if he was doing some of the songs in different keys. He said that he's always moved the songs a half step in either direction depending on his voice, but that after a few months of not smoking he's doing many of them up a notch. Maybe that's the difference you noticed too? In any event, now I'll just go back to counting the days until the next show, the album release, and my graduation (so I can go back to living somewhere more readily accessible to touring musicians!) Thanks everyone for all the updates! Cheers, Amy Amy Cocuzza Masters in Industrial and Labor Relations, May'04 Cornell University 607-347-4064 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 15:14:41 EST From: Bobdog25nj@aol.com Subject: [RS] Leonard Cohen and Joni Mitchell Wow: Thanks to Susan for the reference to a Joni Mitchell song I didn't know about. I woulda bet cash money that I was the Joni Mitchell expert on this list - but I woulda lost. And to Pat and Gene for the story of "Suzanne". I am always very interested to know the story of how one of my favorite songs came to be written. From now on the line " touched her perfect body with my mind" will have a somewhat different meaning than it did before. I thought stuff like that only happened to me, but apparently Leonard Cohen had the same problem at least once. In my favorite episode ever of "Funky Winkerbean", the last line is " Who the hell was this guy Plato anyway, and why the hell did he have to screw things up for the rest of us?" I still prefer the Jennifer Warnes version of "Famous Blue Raincoat", though I love Tori too. Tori does a great version of "A Case of You", by the way. Somwhere out there is a really cool interview between Leonard Cohen and Vin Scelsa ( New York DJ Extroidaire ) from a few years back. I just remember on one bit, which I am paraphrasing: Scelsa: " So Leonard, you seem a bit down about the future. Like you see a lot of bad stuff up ahead in the future. What advice would you give to young people who are just getting started about how to get along in the future?" Cohen: "Duck. The excrement is about to hit the venilation device." At least that's the way I remember it. I think Scelsa was using that clip as a promo for his excellent show for a while. It does not stream because mean people got the Congress to passed some stupid law. ( I think it's that stupid "Millenium Digital Pain-in-the-Ass Act" or something) but if you live in NYC or nearby, it's on at 8pm on Saturday nights. Good old WFUV 90.7. bye...Bob Paterson ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 20:38:48 -0500 From: Mary Mccarthy Subject: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V6 #66 Apologize in advance for the length of this post, but couldn't make it any smaller. WEnt to the 7 pm show at joe's glad I had seen him in Peekskille earlier, but have to say I enjoyed this show even more. It was intimate. Richard's voice sounded stronger than ever. I think that since the room was so tiny, you could really feel the power and passion of his performance more. A lot of my favorites were played. And the new song there goes mavis is absolutely haunting in melody, chord structure and imagery. Ok now for the part that I'm a little hesitant to share. I was attending the show with a coworker and her new boyfriend, who happens to be a somewhat pushy wall street type.( not my type- but its his money have some fun). Anyway after the show, I stepped outside to get some air. In a little while my friend's' beau beckons me to come back inside. He says, take my hand and as he's leading me past the wait station and rest rooms, he asks if I want a picture with Richard, if he says its ok? And I was like, "oh my god, I don't want to barge in on him like some babbling zombie. To which he replies, "oh I already spoke to him." What else could I do? It was like when someone brings out a big tray of homemade brownies and you know you really shouldn't have one, buts it so irresistibly close and tempting. Long story short. RS was incredibly cordial and humble. I told him how after a serious illness and many years absence his music had inspired me to sing again. He shared with me that the same thing had happened to him. So mr. wall street snapped the picture and I went home a very excited girl. Its not often that you can tell someone how they had such a profound effect on your life. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 23:40:33 -0800 From: Peter Booth Subject: [RS] Vermont Show Just got home from RS show in Barre, VT. He was great. I saw him about a year ago and tonight he seemed much happier, upbeat, relaxed, etc. Great show. Mavis Che Some song in Spanish about writing a song in spanish Wisteria Fenario Mama, if you could see me now Big Muddy Cotton Dress Cold Missouri Waters America (Simon and Garfunkel) "Let us be lovers, we'll marry our fortunes together. I've got some real estate here in my bag..." Last Fare of the Day Waiting For The Storm Fishing RUHappy? I'm bad at remembering set lists and it's very late, but that's what I remember at the moment. Big Muddy was absolutely great! Cold Missouri Waters was a request and he said at the outset that he wouldn't remember teh whole thing, but was willing to try. He absolutely butchered it. Forgot two lines in the first verse and then in the middle stopped and had no idea what came next. He laughed and just jumped to the end. ("I arose like a phoenix...") The verse he missed (I tried to think of it on the way home) was the climax of the whole story ("I struck a match to waist high grass runnin' out of time..." Show was really great, and I was just SO impressed with his playing. I've printed out all the songs from Ron Gritz's site and I've been playing a lot of RS at home and there's nothing like seeing him do it to make me want to just put my guitar in the nearest dumpster. It's just so effortless for him. I suppose that's why he's paid to do it and my wife barely tolerates me trying to do it. Told a funny story about writing R U Happy. Also told a great story about his daughter listening to Cotton Dress. Peter p.s. Does anyone know if ALL the songs on the new album are in DADGAD? With the possible exception of Last Fare, I think all the new songs he played were in DADGAD. ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V6 #70 **********************************