From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V5 #65 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Thursday, March 27 2003 Volume 05 : Number 065 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] richard song of the week ["paul mepschen" ] [RS] War coverage/morbid fascination [ffrink@lm.com] [RS] War/Sci-fi [Elwestrand ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:46:16 +0100 From: "paul mepschen" Subject: [RS] richard song of the week hello! Seems most of you are oldtimers on this list which means you must have discussed Richard's songs all from the first to the last word....but. On the Dar-list we are discussing a different Song of the Week - also known as SOTW - - well, every week.... Anyone interested in doing that on this list?? I am new to this list and could sure use some help. If interested, please post, and moi will start a thread... peace, paul of the netherlands 'the world's not falling apart' --dar williams-- 'the path of least resistance is what makes the river crooked makes it serpentine capitalism is the devil's wet dream' --ani difranco-- _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 08:46:27 -0500 From: ffrink@lm.com Subject: [RS] War coverage/morbid fascination > From: "Bill Chmelir" > Subject: [RS] Morbid Fascination > > Personally, I'm very much in agreement with the aims of this war. I think > it is unfortunately very necessary and very evil at the same time. The line > in "The Things That I Have Seen" that really resonates with me right now is > "This MORBID FASCINATION with the things that I have seen". I think that many people have developed a very strong habit of watching many things. Maybe it's a form of voyeurism. Maybe its what they are used to doing. Maybe it seems to be a safer experience, especially when the viewing raises anxiety levels. > With wall to wall 24-hour news, it's hard to stay away from the war coverage. It's not that hard. Turning off the TV helps. For some, a little goes a long way. Mike - -- - ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:42:51 -0500 From: Elwestrand Subject: [RS] War/Sci-fi > Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:17:33 -0700 > From: "Bill Chmelir" > Subject: [RS] Morbid Fascination > > Bill wrote: > It seems to me that some people seem to > be trying to replace their not serving in the military with almost a sense > of duty to watch the coverage constantly. I think it is natural to want to know what is going on. I don't think that is a character defect or anything. I also don't think that not serving in the military means you are a coward or shirking your responsibility. Each person must follow their own path. I know very few people with the right character to be a soldier. To do what it takes. I am glad that enough people are willing to volunteer for this duty and also to be firefighters or police. Some people just aren't suited for this kind of thing. Also, at the moment, they aren't needed. Why assume that people feel guilty for not serving? I mean someone has to work in the private sector to make the money to pay for the military, to grow the food, to make the clothes.... Watching the recent coverage I am a bit haunted by the movie "Starship Troopers." Ok, it was a super-violent romp and a terrible bastardization of the Heinlein book (which I highly recommend), but it showed more or less exactly what we are now seeing. Reporters on the battlefield showing you the war as it happened, instructions on where to go to find more information on the war, and all sorts of military propaganda and "mtv" graphics. People who dismiss science fiction are often missing the boat on a glimpse of the future. I have discussed it before - see the archives- but I love "The Things that I Have Seen." I personally am fairly careful to avoid some of the images of war. I don't need to add any more nightmare images to my mental file. Maybe we should do a SOTW on this one. It is certainly a ripe time for it, or Reunion Hill or Sparrow's Point. Lisa ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V5 #65 **********************************