From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V4 #290 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Thursday, October 31 2002 Volume 04 : Number 290 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [RS] Re: for Janet [Janet Cinelli ] Re: [RS] Re: for Janet [Janet Cinelli ] Re: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V4 #287 [] Re: [RS] Da Bronx (Was: OK it does have the Turnpike, but still...) [] [RS] now I eat humble pie [Norman Johnson ] [RS] 2 Richards [Lisa Davis & family ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 03:01:14 -0800 (PST) From: Janet Cinelli Subject: Re: [RS] Re: for Janet two places, the first one was Clay Avenue, not far from Jerome actually but right around the corner from Webster Avenue. And I know this is hard to believe but there was a dairy on one corner of my block. I'm not THAT old but it really was there! I think it just processed the milk, no cows or anything. That was the sixties, then we moved to East Tremont Avenue, not too far from Parkchester. Were you the one who mentioned Freedomland? Because I remember that too! Better than Palasades Park! Janet - --- Tom926@aol.com wrote: > University Avenue by Fordham and Jerome. I still > remember getting all the > kids in the neighborhood and walking to my aunt's on > Aqueduct Ave because > "she'll get us ice cream at Carvel"--and she did! > She's a cool one. > > And you? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 03:02:50 -0800 (PST) From: Janet Cinelli Subject: Re: [RS] Re: for Janet UGH!! Sorry about this, I didn't mean to send this to the entire list! HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 6:44:27 -0600 From: Subject: Re: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V4 #287 Sounds like an excellent show. Glad to hear the acoustices were good. Last time I was there I sat towards to abck and they weren't. I'm surprised to hear Richard described as humble. I've talked to him a number of times at house concerts and smaller shows, and he has been MANY things - smart, sharp witted, insightful - but humble was never one of those things. I think in order to be a great artist, and I believe Richard meets that description, there needs to be an air of self-confidence bodering on conceit (maybe that's not the right word) about you. You have to believe in yourself in the face of rejection or worse, indifference when you first start performing in front of people who probably don't care, initially. It must be so hard to write a song and play it for the first time in public. You're putting yourself out there in a big way and that's where I think the need to be very comfortable with yourself comes in. My 2 cents. Joe > > From: Goldlainey@aol.com > Date: 2002/10/30 Wed PM 02:16:58 CST > To: shindell-list@smoe.org > Subject: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V4 #287 > > I went to the show at Outpost in the Burbs on Friday night, and it was incredible. Mind you, I get very caught up "in the moment & the music," so I might not remember everything that was played. I got there very early so I had an amazing seat & the acoustics were amazing. Richard came onstage and played Reunion Hill & Arrowhead. He then played three new songs in a row, which were all beautiful; and as always, had the depth and spirituality that has made me so admire and cherish his music. Anyway, Lucy came onstage and they sang Are You Happy Now, and Next Best Western. He ended with a song that he didn't write and, I think he said he which he had. He has such a dry sense of humor and is so humble. How can you be so talented and be so humble????? Lucy was great but I can't give any details, as I don't know the names of any of her songs. Her band was fabulous. Richard sang a few songs with her and for an encore they sang Dave Carter's song "Farewell to St. Dolores." All I can ! > say is they did Dave real proud. BEAUTIFUL! If anyone else has more to add, or needs to correct me, please do. As always, it left me wanting more, but also feeling very satisfied if that makes any sense.Hope you all are well and Happy Haloween.Elaine ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 6:46:16 -0600 From: Subject: Re: [RS] Da Bronx (Was: OK it does have the Turnpike, but still...) well, I am from New Jersey (please continue to think its awful so no one else will come here and it won't get more crowded you'll never know how good it really is) but I went to NYU in the Bronx. University and Sedgewick. Joe > > From: Howie > Date: 2002/10/30 Wed PM 09:20:47 CST > To: shindell-list@smoe.org > Subject: [RS] Da Bronx (Was: OK it does have the Turnpike, but still...) > > Hey...I'm from The Bronx too! Who else? > > -Howie > > At 05:12 PM 10/30/2002, Janet wrote: > >okay, what part of the Bronx?! > >a former fellow-Bronxite > >Janet > >PS when driving on the Jersey turnpike I am amazed at > >how beautiful the landscape is, once you get past the > >icky part. > >--- Tom926@aol.com wrote: > > > I was born in the Bronx, live in Manhattan, but I > > > -- > Howie Lyhte howie@pobox.com > ________________________________________________________________________ > If I had a large amount of money I should found a hospital for those > whose grip upon the world is so tenuous that they can be severely > offended by words and phrases yet remain all unoffended by the > injustice, violence and oppression that howls daily about our ears. > - Stephen Fry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:15:01 -0500 (EST) From: VANESSA C WILLS Subject: Re: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V4 #287 Hmm. I think I would agree with both of you. I mean, surely Richard is self-confident, as he should be. But I think relative to the immensity of his talent, he's pretty darn humble. - --V On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 j.lanza@verizon.net wrote: > Sounds like an excellent show. Glad to hear the acoustices were good. Last time I was there I sat towards to abck and they weren't. > > I'm surprised to hear Richard described as humble. I've talked to him a number of times at house concerts and smaller shows, and he has been MANY things - smart, sharp witted, insightful - but humble was never one of those things. I think in order to be a great artist, and I believe Richard meets that description, there needs to be an air of self-confidence bodering on conceit (maybe that's not the right word) about you. You have to believe in yourself in the face of rejection or worse, indifference when you first start performing in front of people who probably don't care, initially. It must be so hard to write a song and play it for the first time in public. You're putting yourself out there in a big way and that's where I think the need to be very comfortable with yourself comes in. > > My 2 cents. > > Joe > > > > From: Goldlainey@aol.com > > Date: 2002/10/30 Wed PM 02:16:58 CST > > To: shindell-list@smoe.org > > Subject: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V4 #287 > > > > I went to the show at Outpost in the Burbs on Friday night, and it was incredible. Mind you, I get very caught up "in the moment & the music," so I might not remember everything that was played. I got there very early so I had an amazing seat & the acoustics were amazing. Richard came onstage and played Reunion Hill & Arrowhead. He then played three new songs in a row, which were all beautiful; and as always, had the depth and spirituality that has made me so admire and cherish his music. Anyway, Lucy came onstage and they sang Are You Happy Now, and Next Best Western. He ended with a song that he didn't write and, I think he said he which he had. He has such a dry sense of humor and is so humble. How can you be so talented and be so humble????? Lucy was great but I can't give any details, as I don't know the names of any of her songs. Her band was fabulous. Richard sang a few songs with her and for an encore they sang Dave Carter's song "Farewell to St. Dolores." All I ca! > n ! > > say is they did Dave real proud. BEAUTIFUL! If anyone else has more to add, or needs to correct me, please do. As always, it left me wanting more, but also feeling very satisfied if that makes any sense.Hope you all are well and Happy Haloween.Elaine > - -- Jarod: How's life treating you? Miss Parker: Like he caught me in bed with his wife! -The Pretender, "Toy Surprise" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:04:14 -0500 From: Roxylee Subject: [RS] Re: da Bronx We lived on Marion Ave (near Fordham Rd. and 196th St.) for a year and a half. That was...an experience. :-) Roxy, with a new email address ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:53:47 -0500 From: Norman Johnson Subject: [RS] now I eat humble pie Re: whether Richard is humble: I think a better way of putting it is that Richard is a somewhat shy person who prefers to let his music do the talking. Norman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:31:50 -0500 From: Lisa Davis & family Subject: [RS] 2 Richards Couple of things, 1) I'm in Connecticut - WE lost a congressional seat and it's my district, the 5th! as a Democrat think I'll do something else tuesday besides watch the news. 2) Caught Richard THOMPSON in Northampton yesterday. Believe it or not, skipping our Richard tomorrow -- I just cannot do twice in one week, not only $ and time, but I think I would slit my wrists after both Richards within 78 hours of each other. God. I noticed the similarities. Both excellent storytellers and interested at looking at things through others' eyes. Both great guitarists. One sings a lot better than the other :) although I've grown to appreciate Richard Thompson's voice; at least you can say categorically that it is masculine! :) Both Gloom from the Tomb, except RS usually has an inspirational feeling, shown musically the way the ends of the songs tend to rise and soar, whereas RT is (mostly) just unbearably bitter and tragic and lonely. Both with a slightly acid sense of humor and malicious delight in poking holes in the objects of their scorn. (I always remember RS speaking with venom of the hotel at which his wedding wa sto be held! I think it was) I'd like to hear RS cover an RT song and wonder how thye'd be together. Who was it saw RT go on stage with RS at a gig in the south somewhere? Ricahrd was very awed by the experience. Lisa, emerging from the shadows. BTW I guess I'd also think of Richard as humble, or at least, somewhat self-effacing, but still able to use a bit of acid when need be. Humble from a philosophical/intellectual standpoint. Who knows how he feels inside about it! we all have our demons. ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V4 #290 ***********************************