From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V4 #97 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Monday, March 18 2002 Volume 04 : Number 097 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [RS] better than the original [patrick t power ] Re: [RS] thanks howie [Deb Woodell ] Re: [RS] better than the original ["Andrew Bonime" ] Re: [RS] Songs Written from Woman's Perspective [patrick t power ] [RS] Re: May [LBECKLAW@aol.com] [RS] SOTW Reunion Hill ["Greg Z" ] [RS] Where have all the singer-songwriters gone? ["Norman A. Johnson" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 18:10:09 -0500 From: patrick t power Subject: Re: [RS] better than the original Laura posed: <> Norman wrote: <<"Cold Missouri Waters". I've heard James K. sing it. Very good but Richard's is much better.>> This is absolutely true. James also plays a different chord than E-minor when he comes to "Cold Missouri Waters" (C-major7 perhaps?), which gives the song a different feel, and one that doesn't seem to fit it. In spite of the stomach-turning that RonG will likely experience now, Joan Baez's version of Janis Ian's "Jesse" is wonderful -- I haven't heard the original, but I happen to really like Joan's version of it. Dar's "Nora" is a very credible version as well, although I wouldn't put it in the "better than the original" category. Still . . . it is a very moving version, one that made me take notice of the songwriter (whose name sounded familiar to me . . . I'd seen it in the credits of Lucy's "Flesh and Bone"). Pat . ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:22:47 -0800 (PST) From: Deb Woodell Subject: Re: [RS] thanks howie Peter wrote: > The doctor says it was > pretty mild as far as heart attacks go and I'll be > out of here tomorrow, > since my HMO only covers 24 hours of hospital stay > for mild heart attacks. Feel better! Deb ===== You can take the rock band away from the girl and think you've tamed her. But, she'll just pick up an acoustic, give you that innocent little girl grin, quietly laugh and say? "Nevah!" Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 18:25:50 -0500 From: "Andrew Bonime" Subject: Re: [RS] better than the original I heard RS sing America, which was IMHO, better than the Simon & Garfunkel version. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "patrick t power" To: Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [RS] better than the original > Laura posed: > > < that is better when sung by another? (as in better than the original > version)?>> > > Norman wrote: > > <<"Cold Missouri Waters". I've heard James K. sing it. Very good but > Richard's is much better.>> > > This is absolutely true. James also plays a different chord than E-minor > when he comes to "Cold Missouri Waters" (C-major7 perhaps?), which gives > the song a different feel, and one that doesn't seem to fit it. > > In spite of the stomach-turning that RonG will likely experience now, > Joan Baez's version of Janis Ian's "Jesse" is wonderful -- I haven't > heard the original, but I happen to really like Joan's version of it. > > Dar's "Nora" is a very credible version as well, although I wouldn't put > it in the "better than the original" category. Still . . . it is a very > moving version, one that made me take notice of the songwriter (whose > name sounded familiar to me . . . I'd seen it in the credits of Lucy's > "Flesh and Bone"). > > Pat > > > . > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 18:23:39 -0500 From: patrick t power Subject: Re: [RS] Songs Written from Woman's Perspective Bill wrote: <<2. Every Bob Dylan song ever covered sounded better covered than did Bob's original version. Especially Jimi Hendrix covers of Dylan. Incredible writer though, that Bob.>> This is certainly a matter of opinion as I have *rarely* found a cover of Dylan's material to be better than his original. And contrary to popular opinion, I happen to think that Hendrix's cover of the "All Along The Watchtower" is a travesty -- he doesn't even get the words right! Cosidering how Dylan's "John Wesley Harding" album was a sort of snub of psychodelic, high-tech, whiz-bang, glam-and-glitz rock music (read: "Sergeant Pepper"), it's somewhat ironic that that particular rendition became so widely known. As for Joan's version of "Reunion Hill", I don't like it at all . . . again, it's ironic since Richard has said that he wrote it specifically with Joan covering it in mind. There may very well come a time when a woman does the song justice, but there is something special about the concept of imagining a woman through a man's voice. And . . . since we're on the subject of Dylan and songs sung in a woman's voice, he sings a great version of "House Of The Rising Sun" -- a song that is purported to have been written by a (female) prostitute -- on his debut album. Pat . ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 18:36:00 -0500 From: Subject: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V4 #96 "Cold Missouri Waters". I've heard James K. sing it. Very good but Richard's is much better. I've got to go with Norman on this one too! Also like Richard's version of Calling The Moon better. I like 10,000 Maniacs version of Hello In There over John Prine's. I recently heard Rose Polenzani cover Here I Go Again by Whitesnake. Rose turned it into a beautiful sort of country ballad that was just heart wrenching. REM's cover of Wichita Skyline over original. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 18:55:43 EST From: LBECKLAW@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: May Why is booth objectionable? Is it maybe like hoods and bonnets (England vs. U.S.) Do share. Laura (non Irish) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 19:17:33 -0500 From: "Greg Z" Subject: [RS] SOTW Reunion Hill Ah, Reunion Hill; has to be one of my top 3 RS tunes. It probably appeals to me because I had a keen interest in the "war between the states" in my younger days. In fact the theme is remarkably akin to a song I learned probably 25 years ago. Written by Shel Silverstein and performed by country singer Bobby Bare, jogging the memory it went like this: Have you seen Amanda Blaine, in the hills of Shiloh Wind a' blowin' through her hair in the hills of Shiloh Have you seen her at her door Listenin' for the cannon roar And a man who went to war in the hills of Shiloh Have you heard Amanda sing in the hills of Shiloh Whispering to her wedding ring in the hills of Shiloh Have you seen her running down Searching through the sleepy town In her yellowed wedding gown in the hills of Shiloh I'm missing a whole verse there, but the ending is such: Poor Amanda doesn't know 'twas ended forty years ago In the hills of Shiloh Put these together with Arrowhead and hey, that could be a Civil War trilogy! Greg Z - --- "I'll put this cloud behind me, that's how the Man designed me I'm no stranger to the rain"... Keith Whitley 2,000,000,000 Web Pages--you only need 1. Save time with My Lycos. http://my.lycos.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 19:07:56 -0500 From: "Norman A. Johnson" Subject: [RS] Where have all the singer-songwriters gone? Andy wrote: >>Maybe. But (and I'm showing my age here) I remember when the pop charts were filled with the Beatles, and the Rolling Stones and Eric Clapton, And Crosby Stills Nash & Young, and The Byrds, Simon & Garfunkel, Fleetwood Mac, Joni Mitchell, etc., etc. AT any rate, what I was wondering about was how the group feels about all this. << Go back into the archive. I know that some of us (including me) have said essentially the same thing. How is it that Jackson Browne and Paul Simon and the others you list could write lyrical masterpieces and yet sell millions of records at the same time? That combination appears to be getting rarer. Norman ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 20:08:00 -0500 From: patrick t power Subject: [RS] "Angel From Montgomery" jenncc wrote: <> Having taken lessons from the illustrious, ebullient Ms. Kerry Bernard, this is the perfect opportunity to plug a singer I'm working with -- Rachael Davis -- who John Prine's "Angel From Montgomery" as one of her favorites. You can find a live recording of it at http://rachaelbdavis.com/ . . . just click through to her "debut cd" page. If your browser has troubles with the website (I'm going to be re-doing it soon, I hope), the direct link to the song is http://rachaelbdavis.com/docs/songs/angelfrommontgomery.mp3. Simply right-click on this link and then "Save Target As..." to save it to your computer. It's a fairly small file at 2.05Mb, sampled at 64 bit-rate. Pat . ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! 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