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shindell-list-digest    Thursday, February 7 2002    Volume 04 : Number 048



                               Today's Subjects:
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  [RS] backseat ???                      [Christy Thomas <cbt_stl@yahoo.com>]
  [RS] on writing NBW                   [jim colbert <jcolb@barashgroup.com>]
  Re: [RS] on writing NBW                [patrick t power <ptpower@juno.com>]
  Re: [RS] on writing NBW                [patrick t power <ptpower@juno.com>]
  [RS] Are there any teachers out there?    [Buffy <buffy9@nora.clara.co.uk>]

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Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 04:36:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Christy Thomas <cbt_stl@yahoo.com>
Subject: [RS] backseat ???

well, i *must* step out of the shadows here to say i,
too, was at the STL show...and this Jeffrey Foucault
guy was pretty damn good - i particularly enjoyed the
way he smiled so genuinely full of joy when he sang
"i'm alright" (or something like that)...and my friend
and i had a simultaneous burst of laughter when he
mentioned the ever-so-terrible-but-oh-so-cheap
wisconsin made beer, rhinelander...as we drank a more
than a few of those back in the grad school days :) 
he was quite good!  ...but i do not think he stole
richard's thunder at all...

richard's voice live...is, in my humble opinion,
something close to bliss...the first few words filled
the room and i had goose bumps...i will admit he
seemed tired...but he also mentioned that this was the
last show on this bit of touring for him...am guessing
he was ready to go home...nevertheless...he was in
great voice...and as charming as ever...

no backseat for richard from my perspective...Jeffrey
was good...but richard was in the driver's seat!

i do wish i could have overheard his conversation with
the infamous "beetle bob" of STL...who was rather
subdued that particular evening...but had richard's
ear as we left the venue...

and the beard is more than alright by me  ;)

back to lurking,
christy
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Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 17:04:02 -0500
From: jim colbert <jcolb@barashgroup.com>
Subject: [RS] on writing NBW

<<He has also claimed to have written it at Andrew Calhoun's home (which is in Illinois, I
believe).>>


Well, I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem to me like rs is the kind of guy who normally
sits down and kicks out a song at one sitting... he seems like he would be more methodical
to me, crafting, polishing and editing, coming back to the song again until it was where
he thought it would be. Of course I'm sure there are exceptions (townes would call them
sky songs) but to me it's way possible that rs worked on the song in more than one
location. Sometimes words flow...sometimes you have to twist, cajole, hammer and chip away
to get a trickle.

Don't overlook, too, the fact that he may have even mentioned something in passing and
been mistaken..."oh, that's right, that was confession I wrote in ron's basement, not
transit..."  Meanwhile, we hang onto those words as gospel!  I do have a C3 live tape
where he says he wrote it about the western part of i-80 in PA, a stretch so mind-numbing
that he said he used to think the deer on the side of the road were not hit by trucks, but
just died of despair. But he doesn't refer to just where the song was written. From the
middle of Ohio (never been further west on 80 than that) to the right side of PA, there
are a helluva lotta best westerns, btw. Or at least they buy more billboard space than
their competitors.


Jim
somewhere near packing it in for  the day

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Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 17:19:07 -0500
From: patrick t power <ptpower@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [RS] on writing NBW

I wrote:

<<He has also claimed to have written it at Andrew Calhoun's home (which
is in Illinois, I believe).>>

Jim wrote:

<<Well, I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem to me like rs is the kind
of guy who normally sits down and kicks out a song at one sitting... he
seems like he would be more methodical to me, crafting, polishing and
editing, coming back to the song again until it was where he thought it
would be. Of course I'm sure there are exceptions (townes would call them
sky songs) but to me it's way possible that rs worked on the song in more
than one location. Sometimes words flow...sometimes you have to twist,
cajole, hammer and chip away to get a trickle.>>
 
My point was that Richard very likely changes his story to suit how he
feels any particular evening, not to try to pinpoint where he wrote the
song. I've also heard him tell two versions of how "Are You Happy Now?"
came to pass.

Dave Carter introduces (almost) every one of his songs with "this is a
true story."

Long ago, I heard someone say, "Trust the tale, not the teller."

Pat
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Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 17:36:25 -0500
From: patrick t power <ptpower@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [RS] on writing NBW

<<From the middle of Ohio (never been further west on 80 than that) to
the right side of PA, there are a helluva lotta best westerns, btw.>>

He has also claimed (or admitted -- whichever you pefer) that the song
wasn't at all about a Best Western experience.

Pat


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Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 00:02:17 +0000
From: Buffy <buffy9@nora.clara.co.uk>
Subject: [RS] Are there any teachers out there?

Hi folks, 

Just wondering - are there any teachers on this list?  I'm curious to know
some info about the US school system, and possible transfer of
qualifications.  I'm a qualified teacher in England and was just wondering
if anyone had any insight they could offer.

I'd be really grateful if anyone could help me out, with ANY information,
actually, not just about qualifications.  Please e-mail privately, at
buffy9@nora.clara.co.uk.

Many thanks, 

Buffy

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