From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V4 #39 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Friday, February 1 2002 Volume 04 : Number 039 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] YSH/Yacoub [Scribbling Woman ] Re: [RS] YSH/Yacoub [SMOKEY596@aol.com] [RS] Austin Show [Bill Eley ] [RS] Richard intv on KUMR, Fri 10:30AM (Central) ["Michaela O'Brien" Subject: [RS] YSH/Yacoub Hello listers. . . As occasional visitor, so infrequent that "lurker" doesn't even seem a fitting label, I don't know that an introduction is appropriate. My affinity for discussions of all things capitalized, Truth, Beauty, Love, Justice, etc., is too often interrupted by reality (lower case intended). Yup, that paragraph pretty much says it all about me. Hi there. Nice to make your acquaintance. Now on to why I'm here: A week or so ago, someone mentioned a French artist named Gabriel Yacoub, as he had performed "You Stay Here," without the last verse for personal reasons. A few others were familiar with him. At the time, I visited his web site for more information and happened across a discussion board. The discussion takes place mainly in French. Relying on my tres rusty high school French, I understood one person's post to applaud GY for his version of YSH, saying (again, I could be totally wrong here) that s/he preferred it to Richard Shindell's because Yacoub clearly understood what war (or War) is about and, therefore, what God (or god) is (or is not) all about. I detected a tone of acrimony toward RS's attitude toward or understanding of war and (G)od. A reply, also en Francais, seemed to point out to the writer that Yacoub had other songs that indicated a Christian belief, at least in acknowledging the birth of Christ. I haven't been back to the site to see if the discussion has continued, but I wonder a few things: Can anyone fill me in on the aspects of any discussions that may have taken place here regarding the song? (If I'm stepping on a landmine, so to speak, private replies are fine -- just be nice, please.) As a follow-up to that, has RS discussed the song, or covers of it? Can anyone who cares to translate either the discussion from Yacoub's web site, or does anyone who is familiar with him have an understanding of what his philosophy/theology is? The web site also refers to RS as GY's "American cousin." I'm assuming that's a (rather eerie choice of) figure of speech, but is there some connection -- friends, relatives, or just fellow musicians? Sorry to go on. The topic just piqued my curiosity for some reason. Regards, SW Yahoo! Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! Bid now! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 16:06:01 EST From: SMOKEY596@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] YSH/Yacoub Interesting questions. :-) I'll do my best to contribute what little I know. I was the one who saw Gabriel perform and wrote about it. In introducing YSH, he did refer to Richard as a good friend and that he had Richard's "permission" to omit the final verse. As he explained it, he just doesn't believe that God is to blame for war, which I agree with...God isn't to blame for anything we idiot humans do...free will and all. :-) But I digress. I believe that you can still perform the song as is, as the character in the song clearly does believe that God is not paying attention to the suffering that is occurring here on earth. I think, as in most songs, that the characters can be made up with their own beliefs and feelings without compromising the performer's beliefs and feelings. Gabriel, apparently, feels strongly otherwise, which is fine. As to the origin of these feelings or his current take on theology, I cannot surmise. I only know that he seems to have a deep sense of what is good and decent and sweet in life. It would be wonderful to know where this comes from. If anyone can add to this, that would be great! :-) SMOKEY ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:18:17 -0600 From: Bill Eley Subject: [RS] Austin Show The show in Austin was great, as usual. Unfortunately, when he was introduced, the announcer said something like "And with his new album, 'Career', please welcome Richard Shindell". Not a high moment of the show. The songs: Set 1: Courier Shades of Gray Beyond the Iron Gate Before You Go Summer Wind I Am Mary M. Darkness, Darkness Waiting for the Storm Set 2: You Stay Here AYHN Reunion Hill Next Best Western Wysteria Kenworth Willing Transit America Sonora (encore) He mentioned how puzzled he was at first how, in "Shades of Gray", "tall and kind of frail" would rhyme with "crazier than hell". Then he realized how REK would pronounce "hell" - "hail". Sure to puzzle linguists and song analysts in the distant future. An interesting change of songs from the previous night. And there was no shortage of requests, so it's hard to know what was a request, and what was not. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 19:54:40 -0500 From: "Michaela O'Brien" Subject: [RS] Richard intv on KUMR, Fri 10:30AM (Central) Hi all, This just came through -- I hope it makes the list in time...otherwise it will be archived: Richard taped an interview that will run FRIDAY, Feb. 1st around 10:30AM Central on KUMR's Sounds Eclectic. You can listen on line.. go to http://www.kumr.org to either listen to the station's "Live Stream" or access the archived Richard Shindell interview edition (or other editions of Sounds Eclectic and many more KUMR programs). With any luck, the show will be available in the archive after 1pm or so. Log on to http://www.kumr.org/ and follow the buttons listen live or to archived shows. Take care, Michaela ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V4 #39 **********************************