From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V3 #480 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Friday, December 28 2001 Volume 03 : Number 480 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Hello ["alan.teather" ] [RS] Courier questions ["Phil Garner" ] Re: [RS] Courier questions [Rongrittz@aol.com] [RS] CDDB? [Charlie Hunter ] Re: [RS] CDDB? [Rongrittz@aol.com] Re: [RS] CDDB? ["Rob Knautz" ] Re: [RS] CDDB? [Jeff Gilson ] RE: [RS] CDDB? [Katrin.Uhl@t-online.de (Katrin Uhl)] Re: [RS] CDDB? [SMOKEY596@aol.com] RE: [RS] CDDB? ["Rob Knautz" ] Re: [RS] CDDB? ["Vanessa C. Wills" ] [RS] CDB? [jim colbert ] [RS] cddb song and track identification [jim colbert ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 13:18:54 -0000 From: "alan.teather" Subject: [RS] Hello Hi folks, Just to say hi to you people of good taste. I look forward to many a good chat / posting with you all. Take care, Alan Teather in a VERY windy Hartlepool on the North east coast of England ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 09:30:49 -0500 From: "Phil Garner" Subject: [RS] Courier questions Phil Garner here, coming out of lurking mode Two questions with regard to "Courier: (1) did anyone else note that the track listing on the back of the CD is not correct? the trucking songs are not in the order listed (2) was Richard suffering from sinus problems or perhaps a head cold when some of these songs were recorder? I've listened to all of his CDs repeatedly and I've seen him live once, but never have I noticed the "stuffy nose" sound he delivers on some of the cuts on "Courier". Phil Garner Winston-Salem, NC PGARNER@PRODIGY.NET ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 09:37:03 EST From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] Courier questions << id anyone else note that the track listing on the back of the CD is not correct? the trucking songs are not in the order listed >> Yes, Charlie Hunter mentioned that the first run of liner notes had that error. Check out the "NEWS" page at www.richardshindell.com for information on how to download a corrected copy, or an address to which you can write for a new one. RG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 09:59:27 -0500 From: Charlie Hunter Subject: [RS] CDDB? Reinhard points out: > - btw the cddb > entry is mixed up as well;-( Chalie asks plaintively: "what is a cddb entry"? Wishing you all the happiest, - -Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 09:59:48 EST From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] CDDB? >> "what is a cddb entry"? << In true Tom Neff fashion, I checked it out on the wonderful internet (www.cddb.com), and it seems to be a database of information about Every CD Ever Released (hell, they even have "Scenes From A Blue Divide" listed), although I don't see "Courier" listed . . . perhaps because it technically hasn't been released yet. RG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 09:15:13 -0600 From: "Rob Knautz" Subject: Re: [RS] CDDB? If you have a CDDB enabled cd player program for your computer (Winamp, Windows Media Player, etc), it will download the album/artist/song title info into your player. - ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Rongrittz@aol.com Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 09:59:48 EST >>> "what is a cddb entry"? << > >In true Tom Neff fashion, I checked it out on the wonderful internet >(www.cddb.com), and it seems to be a database of information about Every CD >Ever Released (hell, they even have "Scenes From A Blue Divide" listed), >although I don't see "Courier" listed . . . perhaps because it technically >hasn't been released yet. > >RG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 10:56:20 -0500 From: Jeff Gilson Subject: Re: [RS] CDDB? At 09:59 12/28/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >> "what is a cddb entry"? << > >In true Tom Neff fashion, I checked it out on the wonderful internet >(www.cddb.com), and it seems to be a database of information about Every CD >Ever Released (hell, they even have "Scenes From A Blue Divide" listed), >although I don't see "Courier" listed . . . perhaps because it technically >hasn't been released yet. It's in there. I looked it up, and it comes up (with the incorrect order) on my CD program. They don't wait for an official release or anything, but just the first time someone pops it into a CDDB-enabled player. jeff. - -- Love, here's a place and here's a name Love, she will hold you in her arms and show you who you are --Richard Shindell - -- writing by osmosis http://www.onefreeradical.com/osmosis/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 17:20:34 +0100 From: Katrin.Uhl@t-online.de (Katrin Uhl) Subject: RE: [RS] CDDB? for free? ??? is that a new mp3-sort of a thing? I took a quick look at it and decided it was more information than I could handle. :) Katrin, who will write some thoughts (good thoughts, good thoughts) about the Courier which has been in pretty constant rotation since it arrived a week ago. > -----Original Message----- > > > If you have a CDDB enabled cd player program for your > computer (Winamp, Windows Media Player, etc), it will > download the album/artist/song title info into your player. > > >RG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 11:24:15 EST From: SMOKEY596@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] CDDB? I entered the information into Windows Media Player when I first put it on, but I put the tracks in the right order. I don't really know how it all works, but it's in there for me when I play it. SMOKEY Atlantic Canada's Artists and Artisans www.gathering-of-artists.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 10:30:35 -0600 From: "Rob Knautz" Subject: RE: [RS] CDDB? It just downloads the titles to your player so you can see them while the disc is playing, not the songs themselves. - ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Katrin.Uhl@t-online.de (Katrin Uhl) Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 17:20:34 +0100 >for free? ??? is that a new mp3-sort of a thing? >I took a quick look at it and decided it was more information than I could >handle. :) > >Katrin, >who will write some thoughts (good thoughts, good thoughts) about the >Courier which has been in pretty constant rotation since it arrived a week >ago. > >> -----Original Message----- >> >> >> If you have a CDDB enabled cd player program for your >> computer (Winamp, Windows Media Player, etc), it will >> download the album/artist/song title info into your player. >> >> >RG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 13:34:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Vanessa C. Wills" Subject: Re: [RS] CDDB? even more delightful, the newest versions of WinAMp (and I think, realjukebox and probably other cd playing programs on your computer) will automatically call up the cddb info. Once, however, this resulted in every song of one CD having the name "Richard Schindell" before it. That was annoying. - --V "I am a citizen of the moment. I have built my white picket fence around the now." --The Tick On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 Rongrittz@aol.com wrote: > >> "what is a cddb entry"? << > > In true Tom Neff fashion, I checked it out on the wonderful internet > (www.cddb.com), and it seems to be a database of information about Every CD > Ever Released (hell, they even have "Scenes From A Blue Divide" listed), > although I don't see "Courier" listed . . . perhaps because it technically > hasn't been released yet. > > RG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 14:36:38 -0500 From: jim colbert Subject: [RS] CDB? All this talk of CDDB has reminded me of a children's book in the library when I was in grade school... CDB or something like that. The book was written as sentences using single letters instead of words: CDB? D B S A B Z B... You know, "see the bee? The bee is a busy bee?" I guess it was a lot more amusing when I was 7. (On the other hand, like that fine wine you cultured types drink, "pull my finger" has only gotten more amusing with time.) iTunes on a Mac with internet access has done that same track search and identify thing for quite some time. I find it somewhat annoying myself, since it is wrong every now and then, sometimes edits the titles of songs improperly, or sometimes lists the artist first and you can't see the track name if you have the player window a "normal" size. It never bothered me enough to check in preferences to see if there's a manual override for this function, though. Jim Colbert now listening signature sounds sampler #5. Token rs content: which includes Transit. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 14:53:27 -0500 From: jim colbert Subject: [RS] cddb song and track identification ...case in point of what I was talking about, on the signature sounds sampler: All track titles are correct, times are okay- second or two off on some according to the jacket- but each individual track at quick glance lists Carter & Grammer as the artists (actually, if you let it scroll at the top, it simply lists every artist on the disc.) So if you didn't know who was singing what, it wouldn't be of much help. On the other hand, if you're at this point you have the disc and only have to eject it to see, so it's no real issue, just an annoyance to me. Now my question would be is this information being manually entered by hand at "cddb central," or is the information it reads encoded as part of the song track itself, like the way you can do manual track naming on some home cd burning software...? jpc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 15:21:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Vanessa C. Wills" Subject: [RS] Oh, Saaaaaaannn-dyyy Alright, folks. Here comes some of that unstinting praise we were talking about a while back. IMHO, Sandy is hands-down the stand out track of "Courier." There are lots of reasons for this, but to me, the most important one is the very thing that can make live albums substantively different from studio-recorded discs. You can hear oodles and oodles of simple, unbounded joy of performing for an audience. It's obvious how much fun Richard was having singing Sandy. Lucy's harmony's are _perfect_--she's there doing her own thing but never being obtrusive. She's the perfect counterbalance here. It just sounds like a big ol' party. So what you're not gonna hear from me right now is a lot of "well, I like the finger-picking after the third verse about two measures before the chorus." I like the joy. The joy. :-) Peace, Love, and Mischief, Vanessa P.S. Sandy brings out everything spectacular about Richard's singing. :-) "I am a citizen of the moment. I have built my white picket fence around the now." --The Tick ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V3 #480 ***********************************