From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V3 #462 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Sunday, December 16 2001 Volume 03 : Number 462 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Screams ["Sally Green" ] [RS] Re: A RS Family Christmas [LBECKLAW@aol.com] [RS] Re: Man for all ages ["Greg Z" ] [RS] test- please ignore ["Adam Bailey" ] [RS] I have to voice my opinion about blue divide ["Adam Bailey" ] Re: [RS] I have to voice my opinion about blue divide [Janet Cinelli Subject: [RS] Screams RonG wrote about Dar's live CD: >I mean, one day this week I was listening to Dar's live CD, and realized how >calculatedly the screaming audience was cranked up in the mix. It would have You're right; the audience enthusiasm definitely is there. I was at all four of the live shows they were taping, and the audience reaction was real - not dialed up. I've been to two Ani shows, and the screaming there is on another planet. Ani couldn't even sing at some points and had to spend lots of time asking people to be quiet, rather than in-between song banter or anything else. It's not like that at Dar shows. Speaking of screaming at RS shows, in my younger days one time I made a sign that said "We you, Richard!" and held it up in the middle of one of his concerts. He seemed a little startled at first (people would shout out requests, but that was it), but then he said "Awww. I love you too." Heh! I don't think I'd do that today. Ah, to be 24 again - I've become so sedate at age 28! - --Sally sallyagreen@hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 08:41:43 EST From: LBECKLAW@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: A RS Family Christmas My 5 year old knows every single word to AYHN (I believe and hope she's unaware of the song's ironic underside)and Castaway. My 2 year old still prefers Raffi over Richard, but it's just a matter of time. Would RS ever do Baby Beluga, d'ya think? Mom Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 08:49:50 -0500 From: "Greg Z" Subject: [RS] Re: Man for all ages <> Interestingly enough, I bought several for Christmas presents; my 7 year old son listens and wants his own. He also wants to go to the next show. Yeesh, one hour + drive to the Iron Horse, the not necessarily early show, then the drive home, school night :-( ruh-roh Greg Z - --- "I'll put this cloud behind me, that's how the Man designed me I'm no stranger to the rain"... Keith Whitley ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 01:00:00 From: "Adam Bailey" Subject: [RS] test- please ignore test - -please ignore _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 01:20:48 From: "Adam Bailey" Subject: [RS] I have to voice my opinion about blue divide I have been listening for a while to everyone about their favorite shindell song, album, etc... Most seem to say Sparrows Point or Reunion Hill is their favorite shindell album. I would like to disagree. While I like many of the songs on Reunion Hill and even more on Sparrow's Point there is just something about the collection on Blue Divide not inherent in the other three major studio albums. First of all the songs seem to naturally flow from one to the next. The stories told from the point of view of really unique characters helps this as well. The immigration officer in fishing, the longing husband in summer wind, the soldier looking back in things that I have seen, and the completely romantic kind of sulking about the ocean seperating lovers in blue divide are so diverse that they seem to fit together so well. The stories Richard is telling us seem so lucid. But the stories seem to have a point at the same time- some political, some romantic, some religious. Anyway, enough of my rambling. I'm just curious how many of you out there like blue divide as your fav. shindell cd? My favorite song happens to be Wisteria but I like BD as a whole. I hope to get my Courier and Sonora cd's soon as well. thanks, adam amac1013@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 21:40:27 -0500 From: Howie Subject: Re: [RS] Screams At 06:52 AM 12/16/2001 -0500, Sally wrote: >I don't think I'd do that today. Ah, to be 24 again - I've become so sedate >at age 28! Ahh, Sally, the stories I could tell you! - -Howie (trying to remember the stories) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 19:46:46 -0800 (PST) From: Janet Cinelli Subject: Re: [RS] I have to voice my opinion about blue divide My favorite cd is also the Blue Divide. I like the flow of the album and I don't skip over any songs. I think maybe it's also because when I first heard Richard, he played quite a few from that BD. It's funny, when I sold cd's at Richard's IMAC show last May, so many people picked up and looked at the Reunion Hill cd but I think I only sold one that night! I don't know what drew them to pick it up, maybe to see what the picture was on the cover? I thought that was odd and I have to say that RH is my least favorite cd of his. Enough ramling, Janet Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 23:54:39 -0500 From: Vanessa Christina Wills Subject: Re: [RS] I have to voice my opinion about blue divide Adam Bailey wrote: > Most seem to say Sparrows Point or Reunion Hill is their favorite > shindell album. I would like to disagree. You disagree with me that Sparrows Point is my favorite album? Now, see, here!!! ;-) > there is just something about the collection on Blue Divide not > inherent in the other three major studio albums I would certainly have to agree with you. Not only does Blue Divide have its own sort of gentle vibe, but it has got three of my favorite Shindell songs--"(A Summer Wind) A Cotton Dress," "Fishing," and "Ascent." I happen to think "Summer Wind" is absolutely one of the most gorgeous songs ever written. I've always thought of this song as just smelling like summer, somehow. There are only two things keeping Blue Divide from even being considered as my favorite RS disc. They are "The Ballad of Mary Magdalene" and "TV Light." Now don't get me wrong, "TV Light" is a very cute song and very sweet and all that. But, if I happen to be within reach of the stereo or the remote control, it's a skip song. In other words, I don't hate it so much that I'll go out of my way not to hear it. But if I have the option of moving along to "A Tune for Nowhere," I will. When I wanna hear Randy Travis, I'll play Randy Travis. And that brings me to "Mary Magdalen(e)." (Note: I see that on "Courier," Richard finally got his way with the spelling of "Mary Magdalen"! Cool!) I know it's paramount to sacrilege to say so, but this song just always got on my nerves. Too self-consciously clever, for my taste. Lines like "It was his career or mine," "Jesus loved me, this I know," and "I'll not see his like again/ As I live and breathe," make my head hurt. But it makes my head hurt in a special way. In that "Yes, I know it's a good song, but I just don't like it," kind of way. You know what I mean? It also bothers me that the disc starts out with what I consider the strongest two songs of the album ("Summer Wind" and "Fishing") and then, IMHO, can't keep up that standard. "Lazy" is an awesome song, and I love it to death. But it's not exactly deep. Before you know it, we're listening to "TV Light." "A Tune for Nowhere" and "Arrowhead" are both strong songs, and I'd say they are the middle songs on the album, in terms of strength. But I don't think they're as strong as the medium-strength songs on Sparrows Point. (If that makes any sense...) As an album, as a cohesive whole, though, I suppose you're right--if pushed, I might be persuaded to put Blue Divide back in the running. After all, the question was "what's your favorite album?" not "what's your favorite collection of songs?" I think you're right, that one album might be stronger than another, even though the actual songs on the album aren't as good as those on the other. It's just that as long as "TV Light" and "Mary Magdalene" are on the album, I can't bring myself to do it. The only skip song for me on Sparrows Point is "By Now," and that's because it's almost too good of a song. So much life there, so much feeling, that it scares the bejeezus out of me. - --V > . First of all the songs seem to naturally flow from one to the next. > The stories told from the point of view of really unique characters > helps this as well. > The immigration officer in fishing, the longing husband in summer > wind, the soldier looking back in things that I have seen, and the > completely romantic kind of sulking about the ocean seperating lovers > in blue divide are so diverse that they seem to fit together so well. > The stories Richard is telling us seem so lucid. But the stories seem > to have a point at the same time- some political, some romantic, some > religious. Anyway, enough of my rambling. I'm just curious how many of > you out there like blue divide as your fav. shindell cd? My favorite > song happens to be Wisteria but I like BD as a whole. I hope to get my > Courier and Sonora cd's soon as well. > > thanks, > > adam > > amac1013@hotmail.com > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > - -- "I am a citizen of the moment. I have built my white picket fence around the now." -The Tick ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V3 #462 ***********************************