From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V3 #442 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Friday, December 7 2001 Volume 03 : Number 442 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] World's Finest [RockinRonD@aol.com] Re: [RS] No Dissent, and my top 10 [SELogan@uss.com] [RS] Favorite Christmas Albums [Donna Myers ] Re: [RS] No Dissent, and my top 10 ["Vanessa C. Wills" ] [RS] Re: great songwriters ["Bill Chmelir" ] [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V3 #438 [Lee Wessman ] [RS] Beer [Lee Wessman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 05:40:57 EST From: RockinRonD@aol.com Subject: [RS] World's Finest In a message dated 12/6/2001 7:20:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, eric wrtes with regard to RonG's comment about Richard as the finest songwriter in contemp[orary folk: >>> I still contend that the finest songwriter in contemporary folk is Greg > Brown.<< This is a curious debate. I, too, struggle with this same subject. Only I might throw in Dave Carter, which makes things even more difficult. But in the end, given his volume of his work, and the AMAZING masterpiece, "Further In," my vote, ultimately, would probably go to Greg Brown. Which doesn't mean I am not in awe of both Richard and Dave and their songwriting talents. In the end, we're blessed to have all three. RockinRonD ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 09:14:14 -0500 From: SELogan@uss.com Subject: Re: [RS] No Dissent, and my top 10 Carol wrote: >>I think I actually appreciate JB more for helping get Warren Zevon out there for us. << And that reference to Warren Zevon -- one of my favorite people on this planet -- has jolted me out lurkerdom for a moment. As an aging rock & roller who, in the past few years, has joyously rediscovered her folkie roots, I usually prefer to sit back and enjoy the perspectives and observations of the more frequent posters to this list. The songwriters who have been mentioned thus far all are worthy contenders. There are a few names which have been omitted, however, and I'd like to submit them for consideration. This is my list of my personal favorite greatest songwriters: Walter Becker (solo and with Donald Fagen as Steely Dan) Jackson Browne Dave Carter Slaid Cleves Olu Dara Bob Dylan Randy Newman Richard Shindell Stan Ridgway (especially during his 'song noir' period) and, of course, Warren Zevon Sue (looks around with shifty eyes then disappears into the shadows... lurklurklurk) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 09:28:26 -0500 From: Donna Myers Subject: [RS] Favorite Christmas Albums My favorite Christmas album is "We Three Kings" by the Roches. Received "Courier" the other day....I love this cd! I'm still trying to decide who to give the second copy to...most likely my friend who attended the Outpost show with me. The problem I have is...I am 39 and married with children, most of my friends listen to their children's music(Britney, Backstreet Boys, Nsync etc). I'm trying to convert them!! Donna ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 09:51:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Vanessa C. Wills" Subject: Re: [RS] No Dissent, and my top 10 I'm sorry, guys, but no list of great songwriters is complete without a mention of STING. Yeah, I said it. Sting. So, HA! - --Vanessa, shaking her head "If your mirror has a monster in it, do not shout, This kind of situation does not call for freaking out, And do nothing that you would not want to see him do, Cause that monster in the mirror, he just might be you." --Grover Monster, "The Monster in The Mirror" On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 SELogan@uss.com wrote: > Carol wrote: >>I think I actually appreciate JB more for helping get > Warren Zevon out there for us. << > > And that reference to Warren Zevon -- one of my favorite people on this > planet -- has jolted me out lurkerdom for a moment. As an aging rock & > roller who, in the past few years, has joyously rediscovered her folkie > roots, I usually prefer to sit back and enjoy the perspectives and > observations of the more frequent posters to this list. > > The songwriters who have been mentioned thus far all are worthy contenders. > There are a few names which have been omitted, however, and I'd like to > submit them for consideration. This is my list of my personal favorite > greatest songwriters: > > Walter Becker (solo and with Donald Fagen as Steely Dan) > Jackson Browne > Dave Carter > Slaid Cleves > Olu Dara > Bob Dylan > Randy Newman > Richard Shindell > Stan Ridgway (especially during his 'song noir' period) > and, of course, Warren Zevon > > Sue > (looks around with shifty eyes then disappears into the shadows... > lurklurklurk) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 08:35:19 -0700 From: "Bill Chmelir" Subject: [RS] #1 Christmas Album George Winston - December Bill - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.282 / Virus Database: 150 - Release Date: 9/25/2001 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 09:59:44 -0700 From: "Bill Chmelir" Subject: [RS] Re: great songwriters Bernie Taupin/Elton John Richard Shindell James Taylor Christine McVey Sting Dave Matthews Cat Stevens Jerry Cantrell Chris Cornell Nick Drake Only one woman made my top ten, but I do have one Muslim, five Brits, one South African, and at least one homosexual for those of you who are counting. You ask "what does that have to do with you liking their music?". Absolutely nothing. Liking music is about whether it moves me or not. It has nothing to do with what ethnic group, sex, religion, or sexual preference the artist is or subscribes to. However, for the benefit of my understanding, it does help that the collective majority of their songs are written and sung in the English language. Bill - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.282 / Virus Database: 150 - Release Date: 9/25/2001 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 10:21:48 -0700 From: Jessica Byers Subject: [RS] Deb Talan Speaking of Deb Talan having a perfect CD, here is some Deb Talan news. She's getting some pretty amazing recognition for someone who hasnt been around too long (ie the CD with Emmylou Harris, Bruce Springsteen, Grace Slick, Aimee Mann, etc)... And opening for Suzanne Vega, and Richard!! Jess <>opening for Dar Williams<< Jamaica Plain, MA Fri 12/14 8pm $6 WERS-sponsored evening Rhythm & Muse book and music store on Center St. next to Bella Luna 617-524-6622 Deb Talan headlines at 11pm Steve Tannen appears here too, time tba New York, NY Thurs 12/20 at 8:30 PM The Bitter End 147 Bleecker St. 8pm Deb Talan 9pm Steve Tannen Also keep an eye on the website DEBTALAN.com for the addition of more shows, including another stint at Somerville Theater (Somerville, MA) and some VERY exciting opening slots, including SUZANNE VEGA, RICHARD SHINDELL and ELLIS PAUL. Best Wishes to all of you, Liz BUY deb's albums: www.cdfreedom.com/debtalan CHECK out the website: www.DEBTALAN.com HELP us get the word out about deb: www.noordinary.org/rep.html >>> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 09:13:26 -0800 From: Lee Wessman Subject: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V3 #438 RG sez: Ah, Lennon/McCartney. The Joan Baez of rock. Blasphemer! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 13:24:03 EST From: Loracevoll@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V3 #441 YAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ............Carol The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. ~~ Eleanor Roosevelt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 10:09:07 -0800 From: Lee Wessman Subject: [RS] Silence "and why so much silence on the list about the Sonora sessions?" eric asks... Why so much silence? Why So Much Silence? Because some of us haven't received it yet, that's why so much stinkin silence! Geez, the mail is slow when it's not a bunch of bills. - -lee ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 10:12:47 -0800 From: Lee Wessman Subject: [RS] Beer I defy anyone to pour me a beer that is finer than Shiner Bock, the greatest, smoothest, downright _yummiest_ beer on this Earth, I would gladly wager. - - --V I think I'd throw Beamish stout out there as a contender. When served on draught, it's so smooth I pour it on my pancakes. - -lee ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V3 #442 ***********************************