From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V3 #418 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Tuesday, November 27 2001 Volume 03 : Number 418 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Re: "Perfect Albums" [Rongrittz@aol.com] [RS] say what? sorry, couldn't resist in these "tense times..." [jim colb] [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V3 #415 [Lee Wessman ] [RS] Re: I am, am not, am too [Lee Wessman ] [RS] Perfect Albums ["Gene Frey" ] Re: [RS] Perfect Albums [Jeff Gilson ] Re: [RS] Perfect Albums ["Susan Koval" ] [RS] Re: my humble (solicited) opinion [LBECKLAW@aol.com] [RS] I Am ... ["Dave McKay" ] [RS] "perfect?" [Elwestrand ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:42:02 EST From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: "Perfect Albums" >> I'm interested in other peoples' "perfect" albums, the short list. << Jackson Browne's "Late for the Sky." Short enough? RG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:50:50 -0800 From: jim colbert Subject: [RS] say what? sorry, couldn't resist in these "tense times..." > when" in 1992 he didn't even have an album out. I proselytize every chance > I get, Well I hope you at least excuse yourself afterwards... jpc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:03:40 -0800 From: Lee Wessman Subject: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V3 #415 >Sayeth Vanessa: (Of course, I got plenty of >genius in "Love (Before You Go)," a song I can't stop thinking about!) > Well I feel like I'm running to catch the bus. The mails carrying my copy of the Winter Solstice album from East to West are slow these days and mine finally arrived last night, in time for a long ride home. I listened politely through the first eight songs and then "Before You Go" came on. A typical Shindellian experience: Hear it once, caught a bit by the melody and voice, intrigued by the lyrics, hit repeat, hit repeat again, starting to sing along now, hit repeat again, again, again... And finally just shaking my head at the genius of this sort of songwriting. What an astonishingly ambitious thing to try to write a song about! And yet, a very simple approach in both melody and lyric. And yet again, hiding behind the simplicity of it is the complexity of what he's trying to convey. I am eager to hear this song produced more carefully in the studio, sans the Telecaster (not that there's anything wrong with Telecasters, but in this tender song, that guitar gets in the way; save it for trucking tunes) and musically embracing the slow build of the song. Musically, by the way, this song reminds me of "You Again." Anybody else get that? Overall, Shindell's talent sort of towers above most others on the album, doesn't it? I mean, I like Mulvey's Joni Mitchell cover, and Brooks Williams' cover of the hymn "I Wonder as I Wander" is a sparkling thing, and the Louise Taylor song, well, geez, that girl can sing. But the only piece of truly interesting songwriting on the album, really, is Shindell's. - -lee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:39:34 -0500 From: "Brian Williamson" Subject: Re: [RS] "Perfect Albums" The first "Crosby, Stills & Nash" brian - ----- Original Message ----- From: Lisa Davis & Family To: Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:17 AM Subject: [RS] "Perfect Albums" > I was listening to Al Stewart's "Modern Times" this weekend and reflecting that > this is one of those perfect albums -- I wouldn't change a note. I think Sparrow's > Point is in that category (even though I'm a bit tired of AYHN), also James > Tayler "Mud Slide Slim," Martin Simpson "Leaves of Life," Fairport Convention > "Liege and lief," (sp) -- the point is, I'm interested in other peoples' "perfect" > albums, the short list. I suppose that is another Desert Island Disks thread, > but if the album has any tracks you skip, it wouldn't qualify. > > Lisa > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > CNM Network Internet Services > Connect... Get More... Pay less... > Long Distance - Telephony - Dial-Up - Web Hosting - Co-Location > http://www.cnmnetwork.com - 1-800-953-5556 > -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:45:26 -0800 From: Lee Wessman Subject: [RS] Re: I am, am not, am too I feel so left out because I haven't heard "I Am" yet. I don't even get to engage in the argument, despite my love of a good debate. But it seems to me that any first pass at writing something about so staggering as Sept. 11 is just that - a first pass. Richard will chase this theme -- you wait and see. "I Am" itself may even evolve. Like so many who are trying to write about what we see, hear and feel in this dizzying age, Sept. 11 will insinuate itself into almost everything he does for the foreseeable future. And I suspect he'll turn over a stone nobody else had looked under and emerge with a rare gem. Now, again -- slowly this time so as not to lose the dopey ones -- where can I hear this? - -lee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:26:07 -0500 From: "Gene Frey" Subject: [RS] Perfect Albums Hey you guys, My short list, remembering that these may not be my absolute favorites, just the ones that are skip-free: 'Sparrows Point' by Ol' Whats-his-name 'Relish' by Joan Osborne 'Automatic For The People' by REM 'Tunnel of Love' by Bruce Springsteen 'Fumbling Towards Ecstasy' by Sarah McLachlan Honorable Mention to REM's 'Out of Time.' I know 'Shiny Happy People' is a goof, but it's too much of a groaner for me. Even with that, it remains my favorite album ever, a near-perfect roller coaster of emotions running the gamut from merely depressed to utterly suicidal. The desperation of 'Country Feedback' peels the paint off of my brain every time I hear it, and I've heard it hundreds of times. Gene F. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:53:34 -0500 From: Jeff Gilson Subject: Re: [RS] Perfect Albums Gene wrote: >Hey you guys, > >My short list, remembering that these may not be my absolute favorites, >just the ones that are skip-free: > >'Sparrows Point' by Ol' Whats-his-name >'Relish' by Joan Osborne >'Automatic For The People' by REM >'Tunnel of Love' by Bruce Springsteen >'Fumbling Towards Ecstasy' by Sarah McLachlan Good choices, all. For me, this is my list: "The Bends," Radiohead "Small Change," Tom Waits "The Heart of Saturday Night," Tom Waits "Bone Machine," Tom Waits And I'm at work, so I'm having trouble thinking of others. Sometimes, though, I think Tom should be disqualified from this, at least for me. jeff. - -- If I was afraid to break or bleed I would find someone much easier to need --Dave Carter - -- writing by osmosis http://www.onefreeradical.com/osmosis/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:38:34 -0500 From: "Susan Koval" Subject: Re: [RS] Perfect Albums "A Recent Future," by James Keelaghan. Sue K ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:41:48 EST From: LBECKLAW@aol.com Subject: [RS] Re: my humble (solicited) opinion Jim, Does the list protocol define one as a lurker after you've been relatively silent for, say,a few weeks? Or longer? What means lurker? Since you asked...I liked "I AM" much better when I heard it with music (as opposed to reading the lyrics on a computer screen). And, although it doesn't "grab" me like many RS songs (e.g. goosebumps, hairs on back of neck stand up), I get the feeling it might grow on me and that in time, I could become quite fond of this one. Almost every single cut on "SP" has been this slow-growing, gradual affection that increases exponentially with each listen. Another Grasshopper heard from, (Laura, not sure if she's lurking) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:42:48 -0000 From: "Dave McKay" Subject: [RS] I Am ... > Quite purely and simply, I am pissed off, because the reason why that song > was written seems not to be even a consideration in some recent postings. > Think about it. I've got nothing more to say on this matter. I'm sure there's been some *real* dross inspired by events of September 11. Should we refrain from commenting unfavourably on that too? Nice to know freedom of speech is alive and well. Dave. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:46:52 -0500 From: Elwestrand Subject: [RS] "perfect?" Here is a swift list of my favorite "all good track" albums. For me to put anything on this list it has to have really stood the test of time. So some recent CD's I love do not appear. Al Stewart - Year of the Cat Richard Shindell - Sparrow's Point and SNP (safe to put this new one on the list wouldn't you say!?) Dar Williams - Mortal City (not a babysitter in sight ;-) ) Kris Delmhorst - Appetite (see note for SNP) Gang of Four - Entertainment (dance, hate, rage against the machine blah blah! This one is/was a favorite of Flea, Michael Stipe and Kurt Cobain btw) Pet Shop Boys - Behavior Prefab Sprout - Jordan the Comeback King Oingo Boingo - Dark at the End of the Tunnel (saved my soul - really) Smiths - Hatful of Hollow I agree with Gene on REM's Out of Time. An amazing album, except for THAT stupid song! My flawed favorite is Sting's - Nothing like the Sun This is a swoon, swoon, double swoon for me. Just hate the song "Rock Steady." Also love Prince's Purple Rain except for "Computer Blue." Likely I've missed a bunch, but I love all of the above. E ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V3 #418 ***********************************