From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V3 #344 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Friday, October 5 2001 Volume 03 : Number 344 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Re: ...Waltzing Matilda [Evan Hulka ] [RS] christmas in the trenches [jim colbert ] [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V3 #343 [jim colbert ] [RS] my final answer [LBECKLAW@aol.com] Re: [RS] Tug Boat Captain?!?!?! and other tall tales [FJPQ@aol.com] Re: [RS] my final answer [FJPQ@aol.com] Re: [RS] my final answer [Vanessa Wills ] [RS] Survey says . . . [Rongrittz@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 14:54:12 -0400 From: Evan Hulka Subject: [RS] Re: ...Waltzing Matilda > Wasn't the song "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda" about a > soldier coming home to Australia from World War 1, after Gallipoli? > I've never heard Bogle do it, but a friend used to play it and it was > stunning. The Pogues' version (on "Rum, Sodomy and the Lash") is also excellent. Hulka (delurking) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 14:57:53 -0700 From: jim colbert Subject: [RS] christmas in the trenches Well, rg already answered that it was Mccutcheon, part of the problem with being on digest version... but for those wondering about the song, there is a good version of it on his live at wolf trap cd. There's a nother song on t here whose title escapes me at the moment (and I'm not ambitious enough to research) about a lighthouse keeper. Nice tune. He's one of those guys I don't think a lot about, but whenever I hear him sing I like him a lot. And adept at just about any instrument you can name from what I've seen. Wish he'd knock the pete seeger-style singalong shit off when he does the water is wide, though... I mean, it's cool if people sing along, it's such a beautiful song and he has a gorgeous voice, but I want to hear him sing, not sing then speak the next line to prompt the audience, ya know? jpc somwhere near pleasant gap ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 15:06:54 -0700 From: jim colbert Subject: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V3 #343 > What are the greatest songs you can think of about times of war? Some > of them are certainly Richard's: "You Stay Here," "The Courier," > "Sparrow's Point," "Arrowhead." Long Black Wall by Michael Jerling, even though it's a post-war reflection, is one of my favorites. I still like Michael Jerling, even if, like James Keelaghan, some of you guys poo-poo him. Now, since you incluce Arrowhead I'm assuming you include civil wars, not just international ones, so I'd also add Stan Rogers House of Orange, or The Battle (or the big battle, depending what record you find it on) by Johnny Cash. David Munyon has a couple good vietnam era reflections too... Now, I've also always loved Covert War by David Wilcox, but I guess domestic drama is stretching the thread just a bit too far. jpc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 16:37:53 -0400 From: patrick t power Subject: [RS] War-Time Songs Touch A Name On The Wall by Joel Mabus Well, I guess you could call it our summer of freedom, the year that we both turned eighteen - We hitch-hiked to Denver, straight out of high school man, we were sights to be seen. And that was the year that you dated my cousin, 'til they took us away in the fall. Now I dearly wish you were standing here with me as I touch your name on the wall. [chorus:] Touch a name on the wall, Touch a name on the wall. God help us all Touch a name on the wall. Every time I come here I wear my fatigues, to honor the men that I knew. I touch every name that came from my outfit, and I read them out loud when I do. Now some people say that they all died for nothing, but I don't completely agree - 'Cause this brother here didn't die for no country - He died for me. [chorus] Now, usually walls are made for division - - to separate me from you. But God bless the wall that brings us together, and reminds us of what we've been through. And God damn the liars and the tin-plated heroes who trade on the blood of such men. God give us the strength to stand up and tell them - Never again! [chorus] ________________________________ Pat ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 12:53:13 EDT From: LBECKLAW@aol.com Subject: [RS] my final answer OK, I've scrutinized the questions, and without e-mailing any Dickheads or even retrieving past e mails with all of the arcana they contain: (please n.b. I have not yet received or listened to SP, handicapping me somewhat...) without further ado: 1. Money for Floods, Ballad of Mary Magdalene, Nora, Reunion Hill, and maybe Tune for Nowhere if one of the foregoing is wrong 2. All of these are on the SNP album. 3. They all refer to biblical or spiritual places. 4. They are all nearly impossible to find at Barnes & Noble in Westport and they are all really really stunning. 5. Baltimore 6. Ballad of Mary Magdalene and Calling the Moon 7. John Gorka 8. The Razzy Dazzy Spasm Band (a.k.a. The Young Seminarians) 9. Hey Duck 10. Skinnaramink I appeal to all of the judges to be kind and gentle in their review of my answers. Please note that in spite of my seeming naivety, I did not include any question marks with the answers, a testament to my confidence and boldness (which should count for something). If I flunk this, I'll have to join another list, maybe Joan Baez.com...(sulk). Yours with faith in redemption, Grasshopper _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 18:00:23 EDT From: FJPQ@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] Tug Boat Captain?!?!?! and other tall tales s/a jersey girl Nancy wrote: << uh...Fran...does that change our plans for 2/28 or are you planning on working up to the shock until then? >> :p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 18:10:44 EDT From: FJPQ@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] my final answer In a message dated 10/05/2001 5:08:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, LBECKLAW@aol.com writes: << I appeal to all of the judges to be kind and gentle in their review of my answers. >> Ron, Gene and Vanessa ....are you grading on a curve? :) Just wonderin' Fran ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 19:21:30 -0400 From: Vanessa Wills Subject: Re: [RS] my final answer I love that I, relative newcomer (a fan for just a little over three years, now!) have become an arbiter of Shindellianism. Either I'm doing a good job of fooling everyone, or I have taken the music wayyyyy too seriously. haha Well, I don't know about my fellow arbiters, but I don't think we will be so lenient as to grade on a curve, either on the RSAT or on the BBM. So, there. :-P FJPQ@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/05/2001 5:08:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > LBECKLAW@aol.com writes: > > << I appeal to all of the judges to be kind and gentle in their review of my > answers. >> > Ron, Gene and Vanessa ....are you grading on a curve? > > :) > > Just wonderin' > > Fran - -- "I still confuse mowing down with getting through." -Jeff Lang, "throw it all," from _Cedar Grove_ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 20:51:41 EDT From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: [RS] Survey says . . . Well, you answered these somewhat quicker than we expected, but here are the results: _______ We asked: Name the four songs in which Richard takes on the character of a woman. You said: Money for Floods, Ballad of Mary Magdalene, Nora, Reunion Hill, and maybe Tune for Nowhere if one of the foregoing is wrong Well, three out of four ain't bad. It's "Money for Floods," "Mary Magdalene," "Reunion Hill" and "Abuelita." _______ We asked: What do "Ascent," "Transit" and "Merritt Parkway, 3 a.m." all have in common? You said: All of these are on the SNP album. "Ascent" is on "Blue Divide," actually, but the real answer is that they're the only RS songs (unless you count "The Ballad of Mary Magdalene") in which the title appears nowhere in the song itself. _______ We asked: What do the songs "Sparrows Point," "Money for Floods" and "The Ballad of Mary Magdalene" all have in common? You said: They all refer to biblical or spiritual places. They all start with "My name is . . . " _______ We asked: What do all of Richard's studio-recorded album titles (excluding "Cry Cry Cry") have in common? You said: They are all nearly impossible to find at Barnes & Noble in Westport and they are all really really stunning. While that may be the case, we were going for the fact that all four titles refer to places. _______ We asked: What city is mentioned in two different songs on "Sparrows Point"? You said: Baltimore Yes, and I hope what's-his-name treats her well. _______ We asked: Which two Richard songs have been recorded by Dar Williams? You said: Ballad of Mary Magdalene and Calling the Moon Half right. "Calling the Moon" is actually a Dar song recorded by Richard. The other one is "Nora," which Dar recorded on her "Christians & Pagans" EP. _______ We asked: Who was the unofficial fourth member of Cry Cry Cry? You said: John Gorka Billy Masters. _______ We asked: What was the name of the band in which Richard performed with John Gorka during college? You said: The Razzy Dazzy Spasm Band Go, Laura. _______ We asked: Richard's son mishears the lyrics to "Confession." What does he think they are? You said: Hey Duck Yep. _______ We asked: Richard has one song that he will play in public when adequately harassed, but has never (and likely will never) record. What is the name of this song? You said: Skinnaramink I'll have to request that at the next gig, but we were going for "She's in Spain and I'm in Pain." _______ Well, 4.25 out of 10. Not bad for starters. But you've got spunk, kid, so we've decided to let you stay . . . now we've just got to look around for the consolation prize of a lifetime supply of Creamette Pasta. RG ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V3 #344 ***********************************