From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V3 #254 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Thursday, August 2 2001 Volume 03 : Number 254 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Re: (suggestion): live album title [Rebecca Gudgin ] [RS] Re: (suggestion): live album title [Rebecca Gudgin Subject: [RS] Re: (suggestion): live album title From: "Vanessa C. Wills" >20) Turn the damn thing off >19) I am wretched, I am tired >18) Your next of kin--I know which house she's hiding in >17) Don't just stare >16) Please excuse these rags I'm in As long as we're being silly.... I am Richard, I am tired, but the CD is on fire Becky ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:27:46 -0700 From: "Gregory Dennis" Subject: [RS] Rejected titles I love this thread. And if "Please Excuse These Rags I'm In" is on the (rejected) list, then we should also add "I've Fallen on Hard Times." - - Greg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:27:43 -0400 From: Rebecca Gudgin Subject: [RS] Re: (suggestion): live album title Ok...just one more...Don't Fight the Hook If the song were on the album I would seriously like "Things that I Have Seen" as a title. Becky, who is wasting time at work until she can go home On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:07:50 -0400 Rebecca Gudgin writes: > From: "Vanessa C. Wills" > > >20) Turn the damn thing off > >19) I am wretched, I am tired > >18) Your next of kin--I know which house she's hiding in > >17) Don't just stare > >16) Please excuse these rags I'm in > > As long as we're being silly.... > > I am Richard, I am tired, but the CD is on fire > > Becky ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 23:37:08 +0000 From: "John Kramer" Subject: [RS] Re: shindell-list-digest V3 #253 Title Suggestions: Hey everyone. I just signed up to this list. I'm really excited about the new Shindell live CD coming out and was reading through some of the suggested titles..."Hell Bent on Saturday" is pretty good...I was just trying to think of a way to really sum up the live experience from this artist/storyteller...I was thinking you could always answer Richard's question "How had it happened?" and name the CD "How it Happened" 'Tis a thought anyways...or perhaps, "The night began as any other." Or, finally, although it sounded like Richard doesn't play the song very often live, "A moment please, my boy" I like the idea of recreating the intimate live experience... Tryin to stay upright in the windy city,Kramer >Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:07:03 -0400 >From: "Susan Koval" >Subject: Re: [RS] (suggestion): live album title > >I love Vanessa's rejected titles - hilarious! But I don't really get the >"Children Stared Into the Room" title. > >Sue K > > > > > >"Vanessa C. Wills" on 08/02/2001 02:45:16 PM > >Please respond to shindell-list@smoe.org > >To: shindell-list@smoe.org >cc: (bcc: Susan Koval/Telcordia) >Subject: [RS] (suggestion): live album title > > > >I hereby propose that the live album be named "Children stared >into the room" because it captures the wonder and the mystery and the >investigation and the discovery inherent in Richard's work. It's also >obscure-sounding, but accessible to even the most neophyte Shindell-ite. >Some funky cover art could spring from that idea, too. I think the tone of >that title also fits neatly into Richard's body of songs. And it might >even bring people's attention to the darkness in AYHN that >all-too-often gets completely overlooked. Just a suggestion... > >Peace, >V > >P.S. I was going through the list of songs on the live album and I thought >it might be funny to come up with a list of things the CD definitely > _shouldn't_ be called. Inspired by "Kenworth," my seedling addition to >this list of rejected CD titles is "Turn the damn thing off." I'm shooting >for twenty by the end of the day--we can do it, guys! > >20) Turn the damn thing off >19) I am wretched, I am tired >18) Your next of kin--I know which house she's hiding in >17) Don't just stare >16) Please excuse these rags I'm in > >Peace, Love, and Mischief, >Vanessa, who is at work and _desperate_ for entertainment! > >"If your mirror has a monster in it, do not shout, >This kind of situation does not call for freaking out, >And do nothing that you would not want to see him do, >Cause that monster in the mirror, he just might be you." > - --Grover Monster, "The Monster in The Mirror" > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 16:00:48 EDT >From: RockinRonD@aol.com >Subject: [RS] Me Again with Me Again > >Vanessa...your boss is watching you. Better get back to work. And that goes for the rest of you too! > >And I still like "Me Again" (as opposed to "You Again") as a title for the Live CD, spoken intro or not. By the by, both the Ellis Paul and Fred Eaglesmith recent live CD's have spoken intros. I think any live CD is kinda naked without one. Or am I wrong? To quote Richard Nixon. > >RonD > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 16:25:38 -0400 >From: "Norman A. Johnson" >Subject: [RS] rejected album titles > >Rejected song titles. > >Vanessa started us off with > > >20) Turn the damn thing off > >19) I am wretched, I am tired > >18) Your next of kin--I know which house she's hiding in > >17) Don't just stare > >16) Please excuse these rags I'm in > >I'll add: > >15) The fool I was >14) No one believes me >13) It's a crime, it's a shame >12) Clearly Impaired > >And my personal favorite > >11) I pity all the suckers > >Norman > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:08:01 -0400 (EDT) >From: "Vanessa C. Wills" >Subject: Re: [RS] (suggestion): live album title > >eek--actually, that would be "Children peered into the room." But it still >works! > >"If your mirror has a monster in it, do not shout, >This kind of situation does not call for freaking out, >And do nothing that you would not want to see him do, >Cause that monster in the mirror, he just might be you." > --Grover Monster, "The Monster in The Mirror" > >On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Vanessa C. Wills wrote: > > > Just to reiterate what a great idea this is (and because I'm nothing if > > not shy), I urge everyone to visualize a CD in front of him or her that is > > by Richard Shindell and called "Children stared into the room." > > > > Doesn't it just feel...right? It piques your curiosity, draws you into a > > mysterious world. It transforms the album from just another silver-colored > > disc into a whole other realm. > > > > Peace, > > Vanessa, who vows to champion this cause til the bitter end! > > > > "If your mirror has a monster in it, do not shout, > > This kind of situation does not call for freaking out, > > And do nothing that you would not want to see him do, > > Cause that monster in the mirror, he just might be you." > > --Grover Monster, "The Monster in The Mirror" > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:18:26 -0400 (EDT) >From: "Vanessa C. Wills" >Subject: Re: [RS] rejected album titles > >ooh! Those are good, Norman! >OK, I have one more. > >10) Slowed to a crawl > >Also, a super-rejected album title, because May isn't even on there: "This >is no kind of life." Also super-rejected? "Let's pull the plug." > >But we still need ten more based on the songs actually on the CD. We can >do it! > > >"If your mirror has a monster in it, do not shout, >This kind of situation does not call for freaking out, >And do nothing that you would not want to see him do, >Cause that monster in the mirror, he just might be you." > - --Grover Monster, "The Monster in The Mirror" > >On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Norman A. Johnson wrote: > > > Rejected song titles. > > > > Vanessa started us off with > > > > >20) Turn the damn thing off > > >19) I am wretched, I am tired > > >18) Your next of kin--I know which house she's hiding in > > >17) Don't just stare > > >16) Please excuse these rags I'm in > > > > I'll add: > > > > 15) The fool I was > > 14) No one believes me > > 13) It's a crime, it's a shame > > 12) Clearly Impaired > > > > And my personal favorite > > > > 11) I pity all the suckers > > > > Norman > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:20:30 -0400 (EDT) >From: "Vanessa C. Wills" >Subject: Re: [RS] (suggestion): live album title > >I know, too much crack, or not enough, or something! >It should have been "Children peered into the room"--from the line in >AYHN. Or do you just mean it's a bit "out there" (which, I admit, it is)? > >Peace, >V > >"If your mirror has a monster in it, do not shout, >This kind of situation does not call for freaking out, >And do nothing that you would not want to see him do, >Cause that monster in the mirror, he just might be you." > --Grover Monster, "The Monster in The Mirror" > >On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Susan Koval wrote: > > > I love Vanessa's rejected titles - hilarious! But I don't really get the > > "Children Stared Into the Room" title. > > > > Sue K > > > > > > > > > > > > "Vanessa C. Wills" on 08/02/2001 02:45:16 PM > > > > Please respond to shindell-list@smoe.org > > > > To: shindell-list@smoe.org > > cc: (bcc: Susan Koval/Telcordia) > > Subject: [RS] (suggestion): live album title > > > > > > > > I hereby propose that the live album be named "Children stared > > into the room" because it captures the wonder and the mystery and the > > investigation and the discovery inherent in Richard's work. It's also > > obscure-sounding, but accessible to even the most neophyte Shindell-ite. > > Some funky cover art could spring from that idea, too. I think the tone of > > that title also fits neatly into Richard's body of songs. And it might > > even bring people's attention to the darkness in AYHN that > > all-too-often gets completely overlooked. Just a suggestion... > > > > Peace, > > V > > > > P.S. I was going through the list of songs on the live album and I thought > > it might be funny to come up with a list of things the CD definitely > > _shouldn't_ be called. Inspired by "Kenworth," my seedling addition to > > this list of rejected CD titles is "Turn the damn thing off." I'm shooting > > for twenty by the end of the day--we can do it, guys! > > > > 20) Turn the damn thing off > > 19) I am wretched, I am tired > > 18) Your next of kin--I know which house she's hiding in > > 17) Don't just stare > > 16) Please excuse these rags I'm in > > > > Peace, Love, and Mischief, > > Vanessa, who is at work and _desperate_ for entertainment! > > > > "If your mirror has a monster in it, do not shout, > > This kind of situation does not call for freaking out, > > And do nothing that you would not want to see him do, > > Cause that monster in the mirror, he just might be you." > > --Grover Monster, "The Monster in The Mirror" > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 18:22:31 -0400 >From: Jeff Bernstein >Subject: [RS] Somewhere near Buenos Aires everything slowed down to a crawl > >The New York Times > >August 1, 2001 > >Austerity Plan in Argentina Provokes Wide Protests >By CLIFFORD KRAUSS > >BUENOS AIRES, July 31 - Tens of thousands of unemployed workers, public >employees and students blocked scores of major highways and city streets >across Argentina today to protest new government spending cuts aimed at >averting a default on the foreign debt. > >Two weeks after a national strike by several unions, the coordinated >protests were another sign that social unrest is growing in response to >the country's three-year recession. > >Sporadic violence and some arrests were reported as protesters set tires >on fire, beat drums and set up tents in the middle of major highways. > >Traffic was snarled in Buenos Aires and other major cities throughout the >day. Two police officers were reported injured in a confrontation with >workers protesting the planned privatization of the municipal power >company in Crdoba, Argentina's second largest city. > >The blockades are being led by small but well organized leftist groups >that have replaced unions as the most important vehicles for economic >protest by the unemployed. There have been dozens of costly road >blockades in recent months as the unemployment rate rose to more than 16 >percent, but the blockades today were the first coordinated nationwide >action by the groups. > >On Monday, the Senate gave final approval to an austerity plan that cuts >government salaries and pensions by up to 13 percent and increases >several business taxes. The plan was forced on President Fernando de la >Rua three weeks ago as interest rates soared and it became increasingly >difficult for the government and provinces to pay the interest on their >$130 billion public debt. > >The government has promised to erase a projected $1.5 billion deficit for >the second half of the year to prevent a default or devaluation. > >Economists say a devaluation of the peso, whose value is pegged to the >dollar, would increase the likelihood that private businesses would >default on their own $20 billion foreign debt since most companies owe >debts denominated in dollars. > >Today, protest leaders threatened to set up weekly road blockades that >would become progressively longer until the government reverses the >austerity plan and releases more than a dozen protesters arrested in >previous road blockades. Meanwhile, hospital workers and other public >employees threatened wildcat strikes until the government changes its >economic policies. > >Juan Carlos Alderete, a leader of the blockades, said the protests were a >successful show of peaceful dissent. "This is a slap in the face to all >who say we are violent," Mr. Alderete said. "They should see that we are >everywhere with our families and children as always." > >Among the protests in the capital, several hundred dissidents carried >banners of the Communist and other leftist parties while blocking an >avenue in front of the Labor Ministry. > >"We think the only way to get this country growing again is to stop >paying the debt," said Ricardo Gonzalez, 40, a printer who has been >unemployed since his employer went out of business five months ago. "We >want the government to fall so a Constituent Assembly can choose a new >government." > >The economic picture has grown increasingly grim in recent months as >consumer spending, industrial production and tax receipts have lagged and >bank withdrawals have increased. Wall Street remains skeptical that >government policies will lift Argentina out of its economic crisis. "The >commitment to keep adding to the austerity to create zero deficit isn't >very credible," a Bear Stearns report said today. > >Copyright 2001 The New York Times Company > >------------------------------ > >End of shindell-list-digest V3 #253 >*********************************** > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V3 #254 ***********************************