From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V3 #253 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Thursday, August 2 2001 Volume 03 : Number 253 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [RS] (suggestion): live album title ["Susan Koval" ] Re: [RS] (suggestion): live album title ["Vanessa C. Wills" Subject: Re: [RS] (suggestion): live album title I love Vanessa's rejected titles - hilarious! But I don't really get the "Children Stared Into the Room" title. Sue K "Vanessa C. Wills" on 08/02/2001 02:45:16 PM Please respond to shindell-list@smoe.org To: shindell-list@smoe.org cc: (bcc: Susan Koval/Telcordia) Subject: [RS] (suggestion): live album title I hereby propose that the live album be named "Children stared into the room" because it captures the wonder and the mystery and the investigation and the discovery inherent in Richard's work. It's also obscure-sounding, but accessible to even the most neophyte Shindell-ite. Some funky cover art could spring from that idea, too. I think the tone of that title also fits neatly into Richard's body of songs. And it might even bring people's attention to the darkness in AYHN that all-too-often gets completely overlooked. Just a suggestion... Peace, V P.S. I was going through the list of songs on the live album and I thought it might be funny to come up with a list of things the CD definitely _shouldn't_ be called. Inspired by "Kenworth," my seedling addition to this list of rejected CD titles is "Turn the damn thing off." I'm shooting for twenty by the end of the day--we can do it, guys! 20) Turn the damn thing off 19) I am wretched, I am tired 18) Your next of kin--I know which house she's hiding in 17) Don't just stare 16) Please excuse these rags I'm in Peace, Love, and Mischief, Vanessa, who is at work and _desperate_ for entertainment! "If your mirror has a monster in it, do not shout, This kind of situation does not call for freaking out, And do nothing that you would not want to see him do, Cause that monster in the mirror, he just might be you." --Grover Monster, "The Monster in The Mirror" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 16:00:48 EDT From: RockinRonD@aol.com Subject: [RS] Me Again with Me Again Vanessa...your boss is watching you. Better get back to work. And that goes for the rest of you too! And I still like "Me Again" (as opposed to "You Again") as a title for the Live CD, spoken intro or not. By the by, both the Ellis Paul and Fred Eaglesmith recent live CD's have spoken intros. I think any live CD is kinda naked without one. Or am I wrong? To quote Richard Nixon. RonD ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 16:25:38 -0400 From: "Norman A. Johnson" Subject: [RS] rejected album titles Rejected song titles. Vanessa started us off with >20) Turn the damn thing off >19) I am wretched, I am tired >18) Your next of kin--I know which house she's hiding in >17) Don't just stare >16) Please excuse these rags I'm in I'll add: 15) The fool I was 14) No one believes me 13) It's a crime, it's a shame 12) Clearly Impaired And my personal favorite 11) I pity all the suckers Norman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:08:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Vanessa C. Wills" Subject: Re: [RS] (suggestion): live album title eek--actually, that would be "Children peered into the room." But it still works! "If your mirror has a monster in it, do not shout, This kind of situation does not call for freaking out, And do nothing that you would not want to see him do, Cause that monster in the mirror, he just might be you." --Grover Monster, "The Monster in The Mirror" On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Vanessa C. Wills wrote: > Just to reiterate what a great idea this is (and because I'm nothing if > not shy), I urge everyone to visualize a CD in front of him or her that is > by Richard Shindell and called "Children stared into the room." > > Doesn't it just feel...right? It piques your curiosity, draws you into a > mysterious world. It transforms the album from just another silver-colored > disc into a whole other realm. > > Peace, > Vanessa, who vows to champion this cause til the bitter end! > > "If your mirror has a monster in it, do not shout, > This kind of situation does not call for freaking out, > And do nothing that you would not want to see him do, > Cause that monster in the mirror, he just might be you." > --Grover Monster, "The Monster in The Mirror" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:18:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Vanessa C. Wills" Subject: Re: [RS] rejected album titles ooh! Those are good, Norman! OK, I have one more. 10) Slowed to a crawl Also, a super-rejected album title, because May isn't even on there: "This is no kind of life." Also super-rejected? "Let's pull the plug." But we still need ten more based on the songs actually on the CD. We can do it! "If your mirror has a monster in it, do not shout, This kind of situation does not call for freaking out, And do nothing that you would not want to see him do, Cause that monster in the mirror, he just might be you." --Grover Monster, "The Monster in The Mirror" On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Norman A. Johnson wrote: > Rejected song titles. > > Vanessa started us off with > > >20) Turn the damn thing off > >19) I am wretched, I am tired > >18) Your next of kin--I know which house she's hiding in > >17) Don't just stare > >16) Please excuse these rags I'm in > > I'll add: > > 15) The fool I was > 14) No one believes me > 13) It's a crime, it's a shame > 12) Clearly Impaired > > And my personal favorite > > 11) I pity all the suckers > > Norman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:20:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Vanessa C. Wills" Subject: Re: [RS] (suggestion): live album title I know, too much crack, or not enough, or something! It should have been "Children peered into the room"--from the line in AYHN. Or do you just mean it's a bit "out there" (which, I admit, it is)? Peace, V "If your mirror has a monster in it, do not shout, This kind of situation does not call for freaking out, And do nothing that you would not want to see him do, Cause that monster in the mirror, he just might be you." --Grover Monster, "The Monster in The Mirror" On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Susan Koval wrote: > I love Vanessa's rejected titles - hilarious! But I don't really get the > "Children Stared Into the Room" title. > > Sue K > > > > > > "Vanessa C. Wills" on 08/02/2001 02:45:16 PM > > Please respond to shindell-list@smoe.org > > To: shindell-list@smoe.org > cc: (bcc: Susan Koval/Telcordia) > Subject: [RS] (suggestion): live album title > > > > I hereby propose that the live album be named "Children stared > into the room" because it captures the wonder and the mystery and the > investigation and the discovery inherent in Richard's work. It's also > obscure-sounding, but accessible to even the most neophyte Shindell-ite. > Some funky cover art could spring from that idea, too. I think the tone of > that title also fits neatly into Richard's body of songs. And it might > even bring people's attention to the darkness in AYHN that > all-too-often gets completely overlooked. Just a suggestion... > > Peace, > V > > P.S. I was going through the list of songs on the live album and I thought > it might be funny to come up with a list of things the CD definitely > _shouldn't_ be called. Inspired by "Kenworth," my seedling addition to > this list of rejected CD titles is "Turn the damn thing off." I'm shooting > for twenty by the end of the day--we can do it, guys! > > 20) Turn the damn thing off > 19) I am wretched, I am tired > 18) Your next of kin--I know which house she's hiding in > 17) Don't just stare > 16) Please excuse these rags I'm in > > Peace, Love, and Mischief, > Vanessa, who is at work and _desperate_ for entertainment! > > "If your mirror has a monster in it, do not shout, > This kind of situation does not call for freaking out, > And do nothing that you would not want to see him do, > Cause that monster in the mirror, he just might be you." > --Grover Monster, "The Monster in The Mirror" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 18:22:31 -0400 From: Jeff Bernstein Subject: [RS] Somewhere near Buenos Aires everything slowed down to a crawl The New York Times August 1, 2001 Austerity Plan in Argentina Provokes Wide Protests By CLIFFORD KRAUSS BUENOS AIRES, July 31 - Tens of thousands of unemployed workers, public employees and students blocked scores of major highways and city streets across Argentina today to protest new government spending cuts aimed at averting a default on the foreign debt. Two weeks after a national strike by several unions, the coordinated protests were another sign that social unrest is growing in response to the country's three-year recession. Sporadic violence and some arrests were reported as protesters set tires on fire, beat drums and set up tents in the middle of major highways. Traffic was snarled in Buenos Aires and other major cities throughout the day. Two police officers were reported injured in a confrontation with workers protesting the planned privatization of the municipal power company in Crdoba, Argentina's second largest city. The blockades are being led by small but well organized leftist groups that have replaced unions as the most important vehicles for economic protest by the unemployed. There have been dozens of costly road blockades in recent months as the unemployment rate rose to more than 16 percent, but the blockades today were the first coordinated nationwide action by the groups. On Monday, the Senate gave final approval to an austerity plan that cuts government salaries and pensions by up to 13 percent and increases several business taxes. The plan was forced on President Fernando de la Rua three weeks ago as interest rates soared and it became increasingly difficult for the government and provinces to pay the interest on their $130 billion public debt. The government has promised to erase a projected $1.5 billion deficit for the second half of the year to prevent a default or devaluation. Economists say a devaluation of the peso, whose value is pegged to the dollar, would increase the likelihood that private businesses would default on their own $20 billion foreign debt since most companies owe debts denominated in dollars. Today, protest leaders threatened to set up weekly road blockades that would become progressively longer until the government reverses the austerity plan and releases more than a dozen protesters arrested in previous road blockades. Meanwhile, hospital workers and other public employees threatened wildcat strikes until the government changes its economic policies. Juan Carlos Alderete, a leader of the blockades, said the protests were a successful show of peaceful dissent. "This is a slap in the face to all who say we are violent," Mr. Alderete said. "They should see that we are everywhere with our families and children as always." Among the protests in the capital, several hundred dissidents carried banners of the Communist and other leftist parties while blocking an avenue in front of the Labor Ministry. "We think the only way to get this country growing again is to stop paying the debt," said Ricardo Gonzalez, 40, a printer who has been unemployed since his employer went out of business five months ago. "We want the government to fall so a Constituent Assembly can choose a new government." The economic picture has grown increasingly grim in recent months as consumer spending, industrial production and tax receipts have lagged and bank withdrawals have increased. Wall Street remains skeptical that government policies will lift Argentina out of its economic crisis. "The commitment to keep adding to the austerity to create zero deficit isn't very credible," a Bear Stearns report said today. Copyright 2001 The New York Times Company ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V3 #253 ***********************************