From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V3 #15 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Saturday, January 20 2001 Volume 03 : Number 015 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] Austin City Limits ["Rachel Rubin Ladutke" ] [RS] Calif Ticket Prices & Live Album ["Young/Hunter Mgt." Subject: [RS] Austin City Limits Well, I'm out in Colorado for the weekend with my laptop. I checked the PBS web sites for the New York airings of Dar's episode of ACL, and it's not going to be on Channel 13 (our big one) - the smaller Long Island station will show it next Saturday at midnight. Didn't even think to check the listings here - I'm going to do that now! Rachel 8o) - --- * * * * * * * * * Rachel Rubin Ladutke, Playwright, Director (NYC) THE BELLES OF THE MILL - Finalist, stage play division, Moondance International Film Festival! - Reading, Oberon Theatre Ensemble, NYC, February 6, 2001! - Runner-Up, Coe College Playwriting Symposia - Excerpted in four monologue and scene anthologies - Developed through staged readings, ready for premiere! GRACE NOTES - Looking Glass Theatre, NYC, December 2000 (workshop) - Gemini Theater, Pittsburgh, PA, February 2000 (premiere) - Winner, Pittsburgh New Plays Competition 2000 - Excerpted in four monologue and scene anthologies CLARY'S EXODUS - read about my writing process for my latest full-length play, online at www.scene4.com Visit me on the World Wide Web at http://www.geocities.com/darling1967 * * * * * * * * * "We find magic everywhere." - Dar Williams, THE CHRISTIANS AND THE PAGANS Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:47:35 EST From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] Austin City Limits << I checked the PBS web sites for the New York airings of Dar's episode of ACL, and it's not going to be on Channel 13 (our big one) - the smaller Long Island station will show it next Saturday at midnight. Didn't even think to check the listings here - I'm going to do that now! >> For those in the New York/New Jersey area (or at least where I am, in NJ), Austin City Limits is on Saturday nights on WNYE (Channel 25 on my cable system), which is where the Dar airing will be tonight. It will also be on Long Island's WLIW (Channel 21) next Friday at midnight, as Rachel says. I discovered this last night while waiting for Dar's appearance on Conan, when I happened to stumble on the Friday night installment of the show, featuring Steve Earle and Kasey Chambers. She's pretty terrific, in a Julie Miller meets Cyndi Lauper kinda way. BTW, speaking of Dar's performance on Conan, could she have sounded ANY more nervous? I mean, I don't blame her -- this IS national television -- but her voice wavered through the whole song and she basically looked like she'd rather be anywhere else in the world. RG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 07:17:30 -0800 From: j a clary Subject: Re: [RS] Austin City Limits >> BTW, speaking of Dar's performance on Conan, could she have sounded ANY more nervous? I mean, I don't blame her -- this IS national television -- but her voice wavered through the whole song and she basically looked like she'd rather be anywhere else in the world. << Well, there was a large bat flying around back stage and the albino wallabie running loose would have made me nervous to. j a c ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 11:29:53 -0400 From: "Young/Hunter Mgt." Subject: [RS] Calif Ticket Prices & Live Album > Wrote John: Wow! I just purchased my tix for May 10 at the Freight & > Salvage in > Berkeley. $16.50 for a Thursday night general admission!!! Sheesh. How > soon 'till he's playing arenas and the venues are charging $20 or more > for lawn seats? Dear Listers, Yes, Richard will be out in Calif for a date or two in May, as he will be attending a wedding in the Bay Area that weekend. So we booked the Freight in for the Thursday, and are now looking to fill the Tuesday and Wednesday (i.e. the 8th and 9th). Suggestions welcome. As to the price - as Richard's manager, y'all should know that I actively try to get Richard as much money as seems reasonably possible for shows, and personally, I think a Richard Shindell concert should cost about $17-20, and must say that I'm kind of surprised that this would be thought excessive. In fact, when I first read John's note, I thought he was commenting on how _reasonable_ the tickets were (as compared to things like "shed" shows!). It just shows how different people's perceptions are! Let's go over the math. These are the actual numbers.... Richard is to receive 65% of the gross, less $100 at the Freight. The capacity of the club is 238. Therefore, Richard's potential share, if all tickets sell out in advance, is $2,453. That does NOT seem excessive to me! Personally, I want to see Richard netting about $3-5000 per show; then I'll feel I've done my job well, and that the man can finally be making fair income for the years of work he's put in for comparatively little return. And remember, out of that $2,453 (and don't forget, that's only IF the show sells out), Richard has to pay us at YH, and Tim Drake, and his plane ticket, and car rental, and hotel and meals.... As for the Freight, they'll make $1475. That seems fair to me as well. Out of that they have to pay for their ads, newsletter, taxes, upkeep, paid staff...and Lord knows they've put on a lot of shows that are NOT full... I feel like it's the responsibility of the artists who now have a draw to help the artists who aren't yet known have a place to play. Would be interested in hearing other's feelings on this. Also... I'd love to hear people's thoughts on what songs from SpPt, BD and RH we should try to get on the live album (all performance variables being the same). The plan on the live album is to highlight songs from RS's "earlier" (i.e. pre-ownership of his masters) catalog -- that would mean the first three albums. Best, - - Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 17:38:02 +0100 From: Katrin.Uhl@t-online.de (Katrin Uhl) Subject: RE: [RS] Calif Ticket Prices & Live Album Charlie said: > Would be interested in hearing other's feelings on this. Hm... ticket prices... touchy issue. I've always thought that ticket prices in the US were rather cheap compared to what going to a concert costs here, in general I mean. Personally, I wouldn't mind paying $20 for a Richard concert. (I wouldn't mind paying less either, of course:) ). Considering how much I take home with me from a Richard, or other favorite artist... concert, I think that is a fair price to pay. I noticed that I am more willing to pay that much if I "know" the artist. You know, it has a different quality to contribute to Richard's income than to Sting's or Mike Jagger's... Granted, $2,453 for about 2 hours of work seems like a lot at first sight, but in the end, when everything else is deducted, it probably isn't. Earlier this week I had a similar discussion with a group of trainers (diversity, intercultural and other) - they were mentioning how much they charge per day and a "wow, I should become a trainer" escaped my mouth. Well, they gave me a little lecture on how much they have left of what they charge and, well, it put it all into perspective. After all, Richard, like those trainers, have to finance all the days per month he's not working, it's not like those $2,453 (or whatever the sum is) come in every day. On the other hand, charging $20 will mean that maybe more people will have to make choices about who they go see. Back in college $20-concert tickets was something I could not have afforded every week (but then I never have/had the chance to see a concert per week anyway :) ) Sorry to be so long winded, I have tons of things to do today that I'm all procrastinating, and email is the best thing for that :) Expect my view on what songs to put on a life album soon (a little preview: Nora, Nora, Nora, with Lucy doing harmony. That's a must. No way around it!! :) ) happy weekend, Katrin - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- i do it for the joy it brings because i'm a joyful girl because the world owes me nothing and we owe each other the world ani difranco ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 11:47:53 -0500 From: Jeff Gilson Subject: Re: [RS] Calif Ticket Prices & Live Album Charlie wrote: >Also... I'd love to hear people's thoughts on what songs from SpPt, BD and >RH we should try to get on the live album (all performance variables being >the same). The plan on the live album is to highlight songs from RS's >"earlier" (i.e. pre-ownership of his masters) catalog -- that would mean the >first three albums. Memory of You, You Again, The Courier, Sparrow's Point, Fleur de Lis, Nora, Summer Wind, Lazy, Ascend, Blue Divide, Next Best Western, May, Iron Gate. jeff. - -- Defied I'm tongue tied when I try to explain how I feel so foreign all blushed with emotion and rough terminology laced up with language o lest you forget me --Susan McKeown - -- (an index of free radical activity) http://www.onefreeradical.com/Journal/ ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V3 #15 **********************************