From: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org (shindell-list-digest) To: shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: shindell-list-digest V2 #150 Reply-To: shindell-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-shindell-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk shindell-list-digest Saturday, July 8 2000 Volume 02 : Number 150 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [RS] T-Shirt ["Young/Hunter Mgt." ] RE: [RS] T-Shirt ["Dupas, Edward (E.M.)" ] [RS] On the Radio [SMOKEY596@aol.com] Re: [RS] T-Shirt [Elwestrand ] [RS] Palo Alto - 6:30pm [Kerry Bernard ] Re: [RS] T-Shirt [eric ] Re: [RS] T-Shirt [Rongrittz@aol.com] [RS] Paterson ["L. Davis" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 09:45:14 -0400 From: "Young/Hunter Mgt." Subject: [RS] T-Shirt Dear Listers, I have to say I'm kind of surprised by the tone some listers are using in discussing the shirt idea. Look, I was trying to solicit opinions and synthesize them into a funny, workable design. Sorry if some of you despise the idea with your heart and souls. Fine; we won't use that concept (though I'd have appreciated it if the response had been -- 'hmmm; I can't picture that; why don't you post it on the webpage prior to producing it?' rather than than just dismissing it out of hand). I try to be available and responsive to fans, and thought that was understood. What gives? Baffledly, - -- Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:06:10 -0400 From: "Dupas, Edward (E.M.)" Subject: RE: [RS] T-Shirt <> One of the good/bad aspects of folk music is that it attracts many thinking individuals who search for deeper content in their music. Sometimes these people can be overly opinionated and quick to express their views. Hopefully the RS list will join me in a unified "Sorry Charlie." ;) ------------------------------ Date: Fri Jul 07 11:13:33 2000 From: SMOKEY596@aol.com Subject: [RS] On the Radio I heard "Grocer's Broom" on the radio this morning. It's always cool for me to be working and all of a sudden hear something that I recognize that isn't normally played on the radio. :-) As for the T-shirts, I hadn't yet weighed in on the design results, but in all fairness to Charlie and everyone else, "you can't please all the people all the time". I appreciate being given the opportunity to have our voices heard, and I figure that whatever the result is, then we can choose to buy or not buy. Not everyone is going to like it, so they just don't have to buy it. Simple as that. I know that I would have to see it before I could decide. I wouldn't be able to decide just based on a description. SMOKEY ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:15:24 -0400 From: Elwestrand Subject: Re: [RS] T-Shirt Dear Charlie: Well since I started the whole bruhaha I apologize if it seemed like a personal attack. It was not. I think we all tend to think as if we are just talking with each other on the list and don't worry to much about it. I do think it is ok that we have an opinion on the shirt/pin/sticker that represents us, but maybe in the future we can take more care with our opinions. Thank you for your work on this project. I know it is not a revenue generator for you. I think the problem arose because, you said you had decided what it was going to be and we reacted based on your decision. If it is still up for debate perhaps you can do as you suggested and post a choice or two and let us vote. None of us can represent the desires of the whole group, but together perhaps we can find a happy medium. Sincerely, Elwestrand - ---- On Fri, 07 Jul 2000, Young/Hunter Mgt. (charlie@younghunter.com) wrote: > Dear Listers, > I have to say I'm kind of surprised by the tone some listers are using > in > discussing the shirt idea. Look, I was trying to solicit opinions and > synthesize them into a funny, workable design. Sorry if some of you > despise > the idea with your heart and souls. Fine; we won't use that concept > (though > I'd have appreciated it if the response had been -- 'hmmm; I can't > picture > that; why don't you post it on the webpage prior to producing it?' > rather > than than just dismissing it out of hand). > > I try to be available and responsive to fans, and thought that was > understood. What gives? > > Baffledly, > -- Charlie > > > ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number - Free Free voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 16:14:15 -0400 From: Kerry Bernard Subject: [RS] Palo Alto - 6:30pm John wrote: >I plan on getting there for lunch. It's an 8 p.m. show but we're going to make a day of it. The show does, in fact, begin at 6:30pm. Richard Shindell Twilight Concert Series FREE Show Tuesday, July 11 Johnson Park Palo Alto, CA 650-329-2527 It ends at 8pm, so maybe you mis-heard the message on the information line? Anyway, 6:30 it is... Kerry :) p.s. Anyone going to New Bedford tomorrow? I'm hemming and hawing... I spent the better part of this week painting my apartment (looks SO sharp!) and I'm thinking I'd rather relax than shlep to New Bedford but I haven't seen Richard in a while and... oh, hem, haw, hem, haw... we'll see. =================================================== Kerry Bernard kerry@younghunter.com Young/Hunter Management 781.643.2773 (ph) Arlington, MA 781.643.0416 (fax) =================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 18:40:25 -0700 From: eric Subject: Re: [RS] T-Shirt charlie, i was a bit surprised by the *strong* opinions expressed myself, but please don't take the reaction personally. when you get a bunch of artistic types on a list, sparks are bound to fly. after all, one man's inspiration is another man's cliche. all your efforts are truly appreciated, and i know everyone is grateful for the special status we enjoy as members of this list, i.e., the opportunity to get new releases early, advance (*real*) advance notice of the tour schedule, etc... personally, i wasn't overly fond of the design either, but i seem to have misplaced my poison pen. actually, i didn't feel it right to criticize an idea when i hadn't contributed anything to the dialogue. look on the bright side: richard must find all this pretty damn amusing. - - eric ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:45:44 EDT From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: Re: [RS] T-Shirt << actually, i didn't feel it right to criticize an idea when i hadn't contributed anything to the dialogue. >> Not to mention calling a design "ugly" or "hideous" when the design itself has never actually been, you know, SEEN. Makes me think of the line: "When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail." RG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 23:32:36 -0400 From: "L. Davis" Subject: [RS] Paterson I have been digging out from a lot of old messages and trying to clean up my in-box and thus the threads on "somewhere near paterson" and comments on highway driving by Sharon. In a lot of ways the description is almost benign! Up here in CT, IMHO, the driving has been getting progressively more aggressive, almost homicidal. It's not so much "flipping the bird," it's cutting directly in front of you, or the ritual driving behind you going 80 and six inches back with the lights on, as if the driver wanted to literally push you out of the way even if there is room to pass. Just tonight, a beautiful clear summer evening, driving home on I-91 which is straight as an arrow and not even crowded, yet another accident with half a dozen firemen doing something to an upended car I dare not watch. At the very least, criminally reckless, reckless disregard for human life. There's a story there, too, it seems to me. (I say this with the perspective of someone who got hit by a car changing lanes without looking, last fall, while my 2 kids and mother were in the car, saved from death by a simple guard-rail.) lisa ------------------------------ End of shindell-list-digest V2 #150 ***********************************